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  •  Crime is at an 80+ year low. (3+ / 0-)
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    There has rarely been as little need to defend yourself from crime in the streets as there is today.

    "But the traitors will pretend / that it's gettin' near the end / when it's beginning" P. Ochs

    by JesseCW on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 01:37:13 AM PDT

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        'Crime' is different than gun ownership. Plenty of crime happens without guns.

        According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, 467,321 persons were victims of a crime committed with a firearm in 2011.[1] In the same year, data collected by the FBI show that firearms were used in 68 percent of murders, 41 percent of robbery offenses and 21 percent of aggravated assaults nationwide.[2]
        So, more than half of the robberies happened without a gun.
        Each gun-related agg assault had three that happened without a gun.

        The point I was aiming for was that the higher rate of self-sufficiency had a systemic effect on the entire temperament of society.

        Sure, people starved, but the overall ability of the population to meet the most basic needs of survival was higher and thus the sense of danger of starvation was lower overall. Make the population more tense through a higher sense of non-survival and you get a population where individuals are more prepared to fight for their survival.

        It's the fable of the sun and the north wind, scaled up from the individual level to the population tier. The most basic truth of that fable is that if you want someone to give something up, then you must remove all of the motivation for the person to keep it.

        The North Wind and the Sun were disputing which was the stronger, when a traveler came along wrapped in a warm cloak.
        They agreed that the one who first succeeded in making the traveler take his cloak off should be considered stronger than the other.
        Then the North Wind blew as hard as he could, but the more he blew the more closely did the traveler fold his cloak around him;
        and at last the North Wind gave up the attempt. Then the Sun shined out warmly, and immediately the traveler took off his cloak.
        And so the North Wind was obliged to confess that the Sun was the stronger of the two.

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