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  •  hm, fair (1+ / 0-)
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    Susan from 29

    here is one example

    note - of cause noone takes up arms to shoot at the sun. The reasoning is - under normal circumstances, the repression apparatus would have been up to the task of keeping order and a stable state, for better or worse, using violence if bribery or persuasion didnt work, a la the bloody Homs affair of Assad the Elder. Now however, such a large portion of normally rural population was driven into the cities that the repression apparatus was overwhelmed - and the population driven into the cities couldnt be told to go back to a countryside that no longer provided a livelihood.

    Thats the suggestetd causation chain, in which the immediate political issues of the civil war are the proximate causes, but the climate change provided the wholesale destabilisation that made the descent into civil war possible in the first place.  

    you can debate it, but at least I think its a reasonable way how a final end to a societal condition (loss of agrarian sustainability) can be observed without it just being "end times ideology".

    •  I'll quote one part of that link (0+ / 0-)

      that is other than speculation.

      CW: But I'd also add, you can’t go back in time and say if Syria had taken care of drought better, they would have avoided the civil war. Because climate change is only one factor. Syria still would have had problems with democracy, with human rights abuses, with existing politics. But in general addressing these issues is going to be an important part of natural security.

      So, basically, this article is about might have could have but no did.

      47 is the new 51!

      by nickrud on Sun Sep 29, 2013 at 02:51:50 PM PDT

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