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  •  How about laid off workers with house & savings? (0+ / 0-)

    55+ and can no longer compete in O's global economy.  O'care will not allow them on his "exchanges" with no income to buy subsidized junk private insurance they gotta go to Medicaid no choice.
    And you are wrong about the clawback.  That starts with your 55th birthday for all costs besides nursing home care.  You are an operative apologist on this and wrong about how it works.

    •  I'm trying hard to be outraged... (0+ / 0-)

      ...but, gotta be honest here, I feel like the argument that you should be able to pass all your money on to your children without any interference to be not much more defensible in this case than it is when the Republicans talk about death taxes.

      Sure, it's scary when you realize that you aren't sure how well your kids (grandkids, great-grandkids) will do without you around to help them. But on the other hand, there are an awful lot of people who, you know, don't have any parents. Would you really prefer that you be able to take advantage of state-sponsored health care, and then, when you pass on, deny others the opportunity to do so by not paying what you can for that care, after you are no longer around to need the money?

      •  It's Fairness Fred. (0+ / 0-)

        The laid off worker should be able to use his savings to buy a crap private insurance "exchange" policy if he wants to keep his house in the family.  Why do targeted younger (voters) get subsidies while the older worker is denied them and forced into Medicaid's collateral loan program?  We both know the answer.  It stinks and is not fair.
        That worker should have been allowed to buy into Medicare instead.  Medicaid really sucks after your 55th birthday and it is not getting any better as the rentiers take it over under O's watch.

      •  Rationalizing Targeted Subsidies (0+ / 0-)

        That are actuary oriented to private profits of insurance companies does appear to have a moral hazard.  I'm curious if you support 100% clawback of the ACA subsidies from all ages and classes or just those for the 55+ and poor.
        Of course that is the problem with this scheme claiming to be health care.

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