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  •  LOTS to Digest Here. Most Simple Minded Issue (7+ / 0-)

    that strikes me is, is there any sign the charcoal industry is looking at this flash carbonization technique? 30 minutes vs 8 hours would seem to imply a serious cost and greenhouse gas savings for them.

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    by Gooserock on Sun Sep 29, 2013 at 06:28:42 PM PDT

    •  It would seem like that over the long haul ... (6+ / 0-)

      ... though of course their existing charcoal kilns are a sunk cost for them, so it would still require an expanding market to be making the comparison on a new-investment basis.

      Under the current charcoal business model, the cost of feedstock is reduced by relying on sources like mill slabs and edgings, and by co-producing charcoal with wood distillery products. This is a business model that breaks down at the level of production under the policy advocated in this diary.

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      by BruceMcF on Sun Sep 29, 2013 at 06:42:48 PM PDT

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      •  Hmmm. Shades of the American steel industry and (3+ / 0-)
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        the big whack in the head it got from Japanaese steel.

        Japanese steel technology was mostly built or rebuilt after WWII, based on something called the Basic Oxygen Process.

        American Steel Makers, having been around a while and not having been bombed to bits, retained their old basic hearth operations for much too long as Japanese makers began eating their lunch.

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        by dinotrac on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 10:18:51 AM PDT

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        •  Or for a happier comparison ... (1+ / 0-)
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          ... shade of what happened to the American electronics industry when the microprocessor allowed computers to go from being a few, shared, systems in large companies and universities to a system on every desk in many businesses and in many homes.

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          by BruceMcF on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 02:13:23 PM PDT

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          •  New technology -- especially new technology that (2+ / 0-)
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            will create jobs available to those with less than college educations, is  a big potential boon of switching over to more sustainable energy sources.

            I don't believe that it will happen magically.  Will require some thinking and nudging.

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            by dinotrac on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 02:15:47 PM PDT

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