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  •  "Perceived"?? (12+ / 0-)

    Well, cousin, being from Tennessee, a seceded state, will do that to you.
    And....for instance, cancelling General Sherman's Special Order #15 that gave all the freed slaves along the South Atlantic coast 40 acres of land (carved up from existing plantations) for subsistence farming (the root of "40 acres and a mule"), cancelling that so that all the rich white guys who had started the War would get all their land back and be able to impose share-cropping and Jim Crow....well, yeah, that DOES LEAD to one being "PERCEIVED" as a Southerner.

    Just sayin'.


    "God has given wine to gladden the hearts of people." Psalm 104:15

    by WineRev on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 08:40:30 AM PDT

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    •  I think you are misreading my statement (2+ / 0-)
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      Jay C, rainmanjr

      He was a Southerner (or Southron should you prefer the post war description) and this perception that he was some sort of Confederate mole crippled his ability to govern.  In the post war days, he was viewed as a traitor by some of the more extreme legislators who would have happily strung him up beside Mary Surratt, Lewis Powell, David Herold, and George Atzerodt.  Many viewed him as an unnamed co-conspirator.

      That being said, Lincoln did choose him as his running mate

      •  Andrew Johnson was also a Democrat (6+ / 0-)

        IIRC, Lincoln pushed to get him on the ballot in 1864 - on a sort of "fusion" ticket - to try to win over Northern Democrats (or at least blunt their opposition): mainly because Johnson had been one of the few Southern or border-state politicians to vigorously oppose secession and the Confederacy. It didn't quite work out all that well in the end:

        1. Northern Democrats (who had their own political machines) didn't like or trust Johnson much.

        2. Southerners, in general, looked down on Johnson as a traitor to their cause.

        3. Republicans, who had a pretty strong lock on the postwar Congress and Cabinet didn't like or trust Johnson much because:

             a) He was a Democrat
             b) He Wasn't Lincoln
             c) He was a self-righteous and opinionated assh*le, and not particularly likeable in any case.

        The impeachment of 1867 was still, IMO, horrifically bogus (though not as much as Clinton's) - but it still doesn't make a great statesman out of Andrew Johnson.

        •  agreed on all points but to list him as one of the (4+ / 0-)
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          Ojibwa, Satya1, swtexas, Jay C

          worst presidents is to ignore the historical context in which he lived and served.  After Lincoln, I don't think anyone short of Jesus Christ would have been a suitable replacement and he was not a native born American.

          Thank you for a thoughtful response

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