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  •  Really? You're really ok with (14+ / 0-)

    "we don't cater to you people"?

    Shop there if you like. Meanwhile, the rest of us will get on with making sure that as many people as possible know what Hobby Lobby's policies are -- so that those who choose not to support bigots are fully informed.

    •  No I am not ok with that comment. (2+ / 0-)
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      It was obnoxious and rude.  If that is what that employee was instructed to say that by management, that would be offensive. But I've seen no evidence that anyone in management had this employee respond that way.  I tend to think it's more likely to be an obnoxious comment by an obnoxious employee.  There are obnoxious Christians, just like there are obnoxious Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, and atheists.  

      I would, however, not be offended by a comment like "Hobby Lobby's owner chooses to run his business in accordance with his Christian views." Hobby Lobby is pretty open about that.  I could then choose whether I want to shop there.  In my view, that is no difference from a restaurant telling me, "we only serve Kosher food in accordance with the religious views of the owner."  That would not offend me, either.  

      •  On the other hand, (0+ / 0-)

        in the forums on, we are having a conversation with a woman who works in a small office for a religious Jew. He won't let her bring any non-kosher food into the office. If she brings it into her house, it's non-kosher (well, packaged food is okay, but pre-made kosher meals are expensive and outside her budget). Even if all the ingredients are kosher, if she prepares it with her own utensils in her kitchen, it becomes non-kosher (in accordance with the laws of kashrut), and he won't let her bring it in. Understand, it's not that he won't let her eat it in the office - she CAN'T BRING IT IN. Even wrapped, in her bag, to eat outside. She doesn't drive in, so she can't leave it in her car. He has left her either needing to spend money she can't afford to buy kosher food nearby every day, skip lunch (every day), or quit.

        Even as a Jew myself, this offends me. The hyper-religiosity is ridiculous, unfair, and appears to interfere with her rights.

        •  I might be inclined to tell the man that I can't (0+ / 0-)

          afford the meals he says I have to bring, and ask if he'd be willing to pay the extra cost.  And if he wouldn't I'd probably bring my food in a very large purse, and tell him he doesn't have the right to even look into that handbag.

          I'm not sure exactly what foods he might object to, but I'd find out what they are, and avoid them if possible.  But not letting her bring it in if she's going to take it elsewhere to eat is very wrong of him, I think.

          Does anyone know what kind of rules apply to a working office?  If it gets too bad, I think she should start looking for another job......and somehow let any prospective replacement workers know what to expect.

    •  Nothing antisemitic about it (1+ / 0-)
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      NOT. /snark

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      by mahakali overdrive on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 05:41:56 PM PDT

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