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  •  They cannot force the vote. (7+ / 0-)

    Also the article makes no sense

    They say they are hoping there are enough GOP members like them who are fed up with the tactics of the leadership that they can find enough votes to defeat the first procedural measure, known as the rule.

    That would prevent the House GOP leadership from even bringing their plan up at all.

    Why defeat bringing their proposal up?

    Let's no longer pretend this is the GOP  v Tea Party. They are one and the same. The GOP created them, adopted them and are now them.

    The one faction of the one house of congress is the GOP.

    •  Resistance is futile (3+ / 0-)
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    •  Discharge petition ... (3+ / 0-)
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      CenPhx, daeros, True North

      ... they could, given that every single Democrat would sign the discharge petition.

      Its only been used twice in modern times, but this is an extraordinary case.

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      by BruceMcF on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 04:40:04 PM PDT

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      •  Note, however, that even as a Special Rule ... (2+ / 0-)
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        daeros, GrumpyOldGeek

        ... it requires seven days,, voted on either the second or fourth Monday of the session, so it would be a move to end a shutdown, not a move to prevent one, except as a threat to force the Speaker to allow the measure to come to the floor.

        I don't understand Parliamentary procedure well enough, but I would not be surprised if it a bill passed out of committee and amended by the Senate could only be subject to a Special Rules Committee discharge petition, since the measure has already been passed out of its original Committee.

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        by BruceMcF on Mon Sep 30, 2013 at 04:45:02 PM PDT

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        •  No reason to take that route. (0+ / 0-)

          A clean bill passes the Senate every time. We're consistent, they're all over the place. They were sure that Democrats were wimps and would cave at the slightest noise. Can't blame their surprise on voter fraud this time....

          They show their loyalists how stupid they really are every ttime. And things get worse for their base the longer they refuse to act.

          Blaming Harry Reid now instead of the President. Tomorrow it'll be Nancy Pelosi. Hillary next....

          All the while, Boehner and Cruz will be the top two names everyone hears.

          It should be Ryan and Cantor. The strategy has that familiar foul smell. But their kids probably advised them to shut up. Nobody else is smart enough to figure that out.

          I just want to witness the implosion whenever their hate reaches critical mass.

          Their geeenyus political strategy is not unlike the strategy of the Whigs. Their platform is similar, too. They imploded.

          Fighting them isn't productive. Popcorn is still appropriate.

          "Never wrestle with a pig: you get dirty and the pig enjoys it"

          by GrumpyOldGeek on Tue Oct 01, 2013 at 01:34:26 AM PDT

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