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  •  So, let's see if I have this straight (1+ / 0-)
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    You can get enough protein without eating any grains? Grains make me gain weight, so if I can get enough protein without eating grains, complete protein, or any soy products, that might work.

    So, what would a person eat to do that without getting a protein lack, especially when it comes to B12?



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    by splashy on Mon Oct 07, 2013 at 08:04:34 PM PDT

    •  Pinto beans & potatoes (2+ / 0-)
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      Grains, or gluten?

      If it's gluten you can have corn & rice as well.

      For B12 there are vegan supplements such as Alive! multivitamins made by Nature's Way.  Or you can sprinkle nutritional yeast on your potatoes.

      Alternately there are a few gluten free breads but most use egg as a binder.  "Seeds of Life" brand does not, it's vegan & gluten free.

      Hummus & tortilla chips makes a "complete" protein.  What that means is that all the essential proteins you need that your body doesn't produce itself are included.  So a starch and a legume will do it (soy being one legume).

      I do not demand tolerance, I demand equal rights. --Anna Grodzka

      by VeggiElaine on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 06:49:59 AM PDT

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      •  Beans... always liked them but recently (0+ / 0-)

        after a phase where I was eating more... lots of hummus, bean stews etc... I began to have worsening digestive symptoms to the point that in desperation I cut out all legumes, dairy (except  a little sheep/goat cheese) nightshade and Wheat/Barley/oats...

        This helped and I recovered but any return to them... it was an elimination diet and reintroducing these in any quantity or beyond very occasional and it brings back all the symptoms. legumes especially... Having some protein... low amounts of chicken and fish with some pork and occasional beef plus eggs seems to work. The protein is said to help damaged guts and using coconut oil along with olive oil for fats also is said to aid keeping the gut lining intact.

        There are lectins in legumes and related proteins in Wheat not the gluten... that can be damaging to the gut lining of some people. I may have had a low level problem my whole life that only got worse as I got past 50 and 60...

        So no potatoes, no hot peppers, tomatoes, eggplant, hot peppers... no bread, oatmeal, barley in stews.... and no beans, anything to do with soy... no interesting cheeses and regular yogurt...

        Fortunately sweet potatoes are fine... and eating a lot more nuts these days... almonds especially....

        Pogo & Murphy's Law, every time. Also "Trust but verify" - St. Ronnie (hah...)

        by IreGyre on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 07:54:18 AM PDT

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        •  This is an example (0+ / 0-)

          Of why nothing can be claimed to be good for everyone. We all developed genetically in different environments, so have different systems.



          Women create the entire labor force.
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          Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

          by splashy on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 09:30:34 PM PDT

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        •  I am mostly soyless these days as well (0+ / 0-)

          due to the high potassium content.  So now of course I crave tofu :/

          I do not demand tolerance, I demand equal rights. --Anna Grodzka

          by VeggiElaine on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 09:51:51 AM PDT

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      •  Don't want potatoes (0+ / 0-)

        They also make me gain weight, like grains do.

        So, a person has to take supplements? I find they don't agree with me either, and most come from China these days. I do like nutritional yeast, and can use that some, and do.

        It's frustrating trying to be vegan without using grains or soy. It just appears to not be able to be done without supplements.



        Women create the entire labor force.
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        Sympathy is the strongest instinct in human nature. - Charles Darwin

        by splashy on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 09:28:27 PM PDT

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        •  They say potatoes are not the best starch (0+ / 0-)

          Rice having a more favorable glycemic index.  Corn doesn't have much nutritional value but make the best tortillas.  

          I checked the nature's way vitamins, made in the USA & all vegetable.

          I totally agree with you (in the other thread) about nothing being good for everyone.  I've had to change thing up several times in my life & I'm just one person.

          I do not demand tolerance, I demand equal rights. --Anna Grodzka

          by VeggiElaine on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 09:57:39 AM PDT

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