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  •  I think I'm not getting something across... (7+ / 0-)

    When I say I will support a republican, or a "better republican", I mean that in the primary election I will work to get someone other than Tom Price selected as the Republican nominee.

    I never said I wouldn't support a democrat in the general election. Please, I'm not crazy.

    But isn't the point of what we're working for to get better people elected to office? And isn't someone who at least believes that government is a good thing rather than something to be shut down to make a political statement better than the guy I have now?

    Heck, even if the alternate republican is another Tea Party idiot, at least they might learn that if you shut down the government you get booted out of office and won't repeat the same stupidity.

    What you have to understand is that Georgia is phenomenally gerrymandered.  Races here generally aren't competitive except in the primaries. The 4th district hasn't elected a republican since 1993 and was home to Cynthia McKinney.  And for the 5th district there hasn't been a republican since 1970 and their idea of a close race is one where a republican candidate gets within 40 points of the democrat.  

    As for my own district (the 6th), there wasn't even a democrat candidate in two of the last five elections and the best performance by a democrat candidate in any of the other three elections was 35% of the vote.  Yeah, I'll be donating my time and money in the general to try to help the next democrat to do better, but I don't see a choice other than to try to help any other republican unseat Tom Price in the primary and if I'm lucky, maybe it'll even be a better republican.

    •  ok- i think i'm getting you better (1+ / 0-)
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      but rather than help a dem in the primary, you're going to be helping a republican?

      I see good volunteers as being worth their weight in gold. I cannot fathom helping a republican. I just can't. how is any good going to come out of it?

      so best case scenario, you send a slightly less awful republican to dc. really? you'll give time and money to that cause?

      the work and fundraising you do doesn't help just one candidate- it helps the whole party. you may think you're helping an isolated republican candidate, but you're not.

      this whole "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" approach makes no sense.

      "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

      by thankgodforairamerica on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 11:08:50 AM PDT

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      •  I guess what I'm after... (5+ / 0-)
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        JerryNA, grubber, MsGrin, mmacdDE, alain2112

        The Tea Party has broken the republican party by eliminating moderate voices within the party or RINOs as they like to call them. If a republican isn't sufficiently extreme, he faces being primaried by his own party trying to replace him with someone more extreme.  And within those congressional districts where republicans face no real opposition from a democrat contender, there hasn't been a way for democrats to stop the process so we have watched republicans get more and more extreme with each passing year.

        What if democrats in solidly republican districts try to change that dynamic?  What if democrats in those districts throw their weight behind a moderate republican instead thus helping the republicans rediscover their moderate wing?  We may not be able to win the general elections in those districts the way the maps are currently drawn, but we might be able to change the primaries.  And even if we can't get a more moderate candidate in the republican primary, we can at least give real opposition to republicans who go too far (like shutting down the government to score political points) by giving them a reason to fear the extreme edge of their party again.

      •  You clearly don't know what it's (1+ / 0-)
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        like in a red state...sometimes there isn't even one Dem running, let alone enough for a primary. Generally speaking, the party knows enough to clear the field if they have a half-way credible candidate, because their chances are slim enough without wasting money and energy on a primary fight.

        "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

        by Alice in Florida on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:07:34 PM PDT

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        •  so nowhere on the entire ballot? (0+ / 0-)

          There is not one office in the village, town, county, city, district for which a dem might be running, in any year?

          Well then by all means, cede control of every office at every level of government, to the republicans. No sense in trying.

          Now seems like a particularly wonderful time to throw in the towel, what with Obamacare launching and all.

          "...i also also want a legally binding apology." -George Rockwell

          by thankgodforairamerica on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 03:35:33 PM PDT

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