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  •  Those "gateway" villages (2+ / 0-)
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    Ed in Montana, earthling1

    are as red as it gets. What ye sow, so shall ye reap, cretins.

    •  Like Bar Harbor, ME (14+ / 0-)

      which voted 75% for Obama. That's as red as it gets?

      It's true that a lot of rural communities vote Republican. Hell, I live in one much to my dismay. But rather than belittle them perhaps there's a chance to change some minds about Republicans in the future?

      Spite is the ranch dressing Republicans slather on their salad of racism

      by ontheleftcoast on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 10:54:28 AM PDT

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    •  I live in one of those "gateway" villages (10+ / 0-)

      that also supports the largest US Marine Corps base in the world. My town is facing utter devastation.

      I suggest you keep the cretin crap to yourself.

    •  I'm sitting here in Groveland CA (8+ / 0-)

      The few tourists that started to come back after the Rim Fire are gone again. Businesses around here have lost almost an entire season of revenue.

      The community is surprisingly purple, overall, given that many of the residents are retirees and vacation-home owners from the Bay Area.


      "They let 'em vote, smoke, and drive -- even put 'em in pants! So what do you get? A -- a Democrat for President!" ~ Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!

      by craiger on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 01:34:22 PM PDT

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    •  Wrong (6+ / 0-)

      Larimer County, Colorado

      Home to Estes Park, gateway to RMNP.

      I'm on a mission! Testing the new site rules.

      by blue aardvark on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 01:39:03 PM PDT

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    •  San Francisco (5+ / 0-)

      Gateway to the Golden Gate National Recreation Area (Muir Woods famous for Redwoods, Point Reyes National Park, Alcatraz, hundreds of Beaches, etc., etc.  With over 2 million visitors a year).  Yeah right, a real red town.  Plus the central transportation node for eight huge National Parks (Yosemite, Pinnacles, Sequoia, Kings Canyon, Lassen, GGNRA, Mt. Shasta, the Humboldt Redwoods parks, plus a huge complex of other federal monuments like Lava Beds.

      "It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

      by Rolfyboy6 on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 01:47:37 PM PDT

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    •  Big Island of Hawaii, Maui, Oahu (2+ / 0-)
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      Truedelphi, BlackSheep1

      Muana Loa, Kiluea, and all the other Volcano National Parks.  Mt. Haleakula on Maui, Punchbowl National Cemetery in Honolulu. Pearl Harbor monuments.

      Yessir, Hawaii a real red state.  No, we aren't a foreign country.

      "It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

      by Rolfyboy6 on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 01:51:51 PM PDT

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      •  Why is Mt. Haleakula closed? (0+ / 0-)

        I've driven to the top of it.  Did it in the car I rented.  Started out at 4am so I could see the stars before sunrise.

        Never saw a single person on the drive up.  Went all the way into the park without ever meeting a gov't worker.  Drove back down by myself also, after we were done at the top.  The only place I ever saw a park employee was inside the gift shop.  So don't open the gift shop, who cares?

        Same at the bottom of the mountain.  Hiked up to the waterfalls, didn't need a gov't employee to do it.  Swam in the pools, again without help from anyone.

        Parks are already open.  It costs money to keep them closed and keep people out.  So a gov't shutdown closing national parks is actually pure bullshit.  Let the people in and don't worry about it.

        •  People like you die in Hawaii all the time (3+ / 0-)
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          Dvalkure, Miggles, BlackSheep1

          Usually from stupidity and doing the exact wrong things. Like you they think they are on a Disneyland ride.

          "It's too LATE to stop now!" - John Lee Hooker

          by Rolfyboy6 on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 02:07:04 PM PDT

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          •  Yeah, I saw the signs (0+ / 0-)

            "Danger, steep cliff"

            My wife and I were joking about it, that everytime some idiot fell off a cliff, the next day a park ranger hiked up and put up a new sign.

            So the new signs can go up after the gov't reopens.  The entire two mile hike uphill, there wasn't a single park ranger making sure people didn't die from being stupid.  Whether the gov't was open or closed that day made absolutely no difference.

            If I was going to fall off a cliff, I would have.  No one from the gov't was there to save me, so what are you talking about?

    •  Huh? Have you ever been (1+ / 0-)
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      To Northern California?

      Offer your heart some Joy every day of your life, and spread it along to others.

      by Truedelphi on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 01:54:50 PM PDT

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    •  speaking from Bar Harbor (2+ / 0-)
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      BlackSheep1, craiger

      You can take back that 'cretin' and the red label.

      We are a hotbed of artists/craftspeople, retirees and liberals - this whole area is bluer than blue and I bet most other 'gateway' communities are, too.

       I just spoke to a low level park worker who is unhappily idle, can't leave and go elsewhere because she is under contract for the season and trying not to spend money while she is not earning any.

       Motels and hotels are talking about closing a month early if this goes on much longer.

       Cruise ships are not coming into Bar Harbor because of this.

       The park is closed because they can't rescue folks that fall off the rocks ( something that happens alot ! )

       We live in a beautiful place. It stays beautiful because it is a national park. We pay for living in a beautiful place by sharing it with visitors.

       All this will impact ordinary working folk soonest and deepest. Your lack of kindness and judgementalism is nasty.

      “Good things don’t come to those who wait. They come to those who agitate!” Julian Bond

      by Dvalkure on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 02:56:21 PM PDT

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    •  hey, runfastandwin: how about YOU have (0+ / 0-)

      a nice warm cup of STFU, cabrón inútil estúpido?

      LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

      by BlackSheep1 on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 08:22:34 PM PDT

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