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  •  I don't think he's calling for violence (0+ / 0-)

    so much as recommending self-defense. If those of criminal intent or injured or even killed, in their attempt to inflict such harm on others, that isn't a wish for violence. It is a resignation that it happens, while rooting for the victim.

    A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by notrouble on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 05:51:21 PM PDT

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    •  Nobody deserves to be attacked by an angry mob (8+ / 0-)

      Not the driver of the SUV, and not any of the angry motorcycle riders who chased the SUV and dragged him out of his vehicle.

      The rider who initially caused the accident has been charged.

      We must draw the line between reactions based on fear and panic, and reactions based on mob anger and revenge.

      "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

      by LilithGardener on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 06:29:31 PM PDT

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      •  There's a long history of NYC racial issues (4+ / 0-)

        which factors into this.  Over the past several decades there have been repeated incidents and community activism against, and by Asians, Latinos and African-Americans.  Minority on minority.

        Now I know this critically injured man is from Lawrence, MA.
        I watched his angry mother on "local" TV last night.
        Short of wearing Boston sports team logos, everyone in the NYC area is presumed to be from the NYC area, and up-to-speed.

        So a quiz:
        The right thing to do is:
        a) ignore the threats, the in-your-face, as it's just 'fronting' due to the insult you rendered.
        b) get out your license, registration and proof of insurance, as you had a motor vehicle accident and need to share information.
        c) get your wife and child out of there as they're screaming in abject fear of being brutally murdered by an Asian-hating motorcycle gang.

        Answer: B, per the NYS Motor Vehicle Laws.

        Oh, one other thing:  Asian gangs ride motorcycles and prey on Asian families and business people.
        Bikers = twice the terror.

        •  We should also note, for those who never rode, (1+ / 0-)
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          that motorcycles have significant advantages in heavy traffic because a bike is far more responsive and maneuverable than any car or truck.

          Bikes are smaller and car drivers often misjudge the speed and distance of a motorcycle when they enter traffic. Motorcycle riders are used to cars pulling out in front (because of misjudging the distance). Many bike accidents are caused by the car driver just not seeing the bike at all.

          "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

          by LilithGardener on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 09:13:09 PM PDT

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        •  Once they surround the vehicle and start (1+ / 0-)
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          trying to forcibly enter, B moves to C. The driver started to do B, moved on to C as the situation required. He did the right thing.

          Non enim propter gloriam, diuicias aut honores pugnamus set propter libertatem solummodo quam Nemo bonus nisi simul cum vita amittit. -Declaration of Arbroath

          by Robobagpiper on Thu Oct 03, 2013 at 02:29:37 AM PDT

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        •  LOLOLOLOL. Get out your license and share (0+ / 0-)

          information with a fucking gang of over 60 motorcyclists???????

          What fucking world do you live in??????????

      •  LOL!!!! "angry motorcycle riders who chased the" (0+ / 0-)

        " SUV and dragged him out of his vehicle"don't deserve punishment for their premeditated crime spree?????????????

        Are you fucking kidding me?

        If a drunk driver hit an SUV, then started menacing the family inside, what would you fucking say? That the drunk driver doesn't deserve to be fucking hit by the family inside?

        God damn it, what bullshit.

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