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  •  Everyday the shut-down is more and more about (15+ / 0-)

    Boehner keeping his Speakership of the House.  But he's going to lose this, no matter what the turn out is.  He already is not the power center of the House.

    •  House speakership power shift (6+ / 0-)

      in the GOP seems to be what this is really about to me. Cruz comes out challenging Boehner, gets him to go along with his anti-ACA attack plan, then leaves Boehner out there to dry knowing he has no options that leave B in as speaker, he goes down one way or another. Remember all these months how Cruz, Palin, etc have been bashing the GOP establishment? How would anybody see this scenario playing out in the House leadership? Can the tea party accomplish it?

      "21st Century Freedom in the USA: Of the 1%, by the 1%, for the 1%"

      by coloradorob on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 07:45:46 PM PDT

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      •  Who becomes the next House Speaker? (0+ / 0-)

        ...if Boehner is ousted? One possibility among those currently serving in the House is Mark Meadows, who is the Republican congressman who authored the letter to Boehner telling him to shut down the government if the ACA wasn't defunded.

        Also, the Constitution doesn't have any provision that would prohibit someone who isn't a House member from being elected Speaker, although a non-member Speaker would not be able to vote on legislation under any circumstances. It's quite possible that Ted Cruz (who would probably have to resign his Senate seat) or Sarah Palin may become speaker. I've even heard Scott Walker floated as a potential Speaker if Boehner is ousted, although one of Walker's spokespeople said that Walker wasn't interested in becoming House Speaker a month or two after the 2012 elections when that idea was first floated.

        Another possibility is that Boehner is ousted and there isn't 218 votes for a Tea Party speaker. In that case, there's a possibility that a Democrat may be elected Speaker with support from a coalition consisting of the entire House Democratic caucus and two dozen or so Republicans. It would probably be a conservative Democrat like Jim Matheson (if an incumbent House member is desired) or Evan Bayh (if a non-member is desired).

        My parents made me a Democrat. Scott Walker made me a progressive.

        by DownstateDemocrat on Wed Oct 02, 2013 at 08:28:20 PM PDT

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        •  Eric Cantor, the one to whom whoever drafted the (3+ / 0-)
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          new discharge petition rule, stated was the one and only person who could offer one. Operator of the Republican study group.  The one who did the publicity stunt today with the empty table. Probably the one who kept sort of invoking the Hastert rule despite the fact that the Tea group is too small to invoke it. Majority of majority, which they are much short of at 80 if that is the right number of them.

        •  Do you genuinely believe (3+ / 0-)
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          that Republicans in this House of Representatives are likely to vote for someone other than one of their own members to become Speaker? Seriously?

          Come on.

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