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  •  How do I do that? (1+ / 0-)
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    robbinsdale radical

    Give back my vacation days that I saved so that I could spend Christmas with my family?

    I am perfectly willing to be at work -- this wasn't MY choice.

    By now, the House has unanimously agreed to the back pay, so it is not an issue. But I find it strange that you think my furlough should cost ME more than it costs Congress. Do you remember how many days Congress actually "works" compared to the typical American worker, including Federal employees? If THEY have to "work" a weekend or two, their world won't come to an end.

    "I think in America, the opposite of poverty is justice." Bryan Stevenson

    by gfre on Sat Oct 05, 2013 at 11:00:50 AM PDT

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    •  Also, by law, I'm not permitted to work (0+ / 0-)

      without compensation.

      "I think in America, the opposite of poverty is justice." Bryan Stevenson

      by gfre on Sat Oct 05, 2013 at 11:13:09 AM PDT

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    •  Congress does not pay your salary. We do. (0+ / 0-)

      If my employer furloughs me I don't get paid and I don't get back pay.

      Why should you be any different?

      •  Again with the... (0+ / 0-)

        "my employer sucks, why shouldn't yours?"
        (I got that from my sister for years, before she went on a deserved disability period after an accident, and then retired. Of course, only certain government regulations made that disability check possible, but whatever.)

        I'm sorry that you are not getting your money's worth right now. Take that up with the Congress that decided to shut the government, and now, to pay me retroactively, after the government reopens. You may pay my salary, but Congress decides where your tax money goes.

        Believe me, Congress puts an awful lot of MY tax money in places I don't approve of -- but I accept that as the price I pay to live in a democracy.

        And, again, please explain how you would like me to "make up the days" I did not work?

        "I think in America, the opposite of poverty is justice." Bryan Stevenson

        by gfre on Sat Oct 05, 2013 at 02:44:39 PM PDT

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        •  If you want to make up the lost time (0+ / 0-)

          and if there is useful work to be done then you should give up vacation or work weekends.

          That's how the rest of us do it.

          Where did this idea come from that government workers should be paid not only for the work they do but also for the work that they don't do?

          •  For the last time... (1+ / 0-)
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            robbinsdale radical

            I am NOT PERMITTED TO WORK WITHOUT COMPENSATION.
            My agency sent me home with strict instructions.

            I am not permitted in the building. I am not even  permitted to access my work email account from home, other than an occasional check to see if there is a message telling me to report to work. (That is, of course, totally unnecessary, since such information would be widely available through news media.)

            You may not like those rules, but that's what they are. I didn't make them, but I am required to follow them.  The rationale for those rules can be found here.

            You cannot be reasoned with, so I will not be back to engage you further.

            "I think in America, the opposite of poverty is justice." Bryan Stevenson

            by gfre on Sat Oct 05, 2013 at 07:10:24 PM PDT

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            •  Are you under the impression that private employer (0+ / 0-)

              let you work for free or that you would want to if you were furloughed?

              They also don't let you work for free - they legal implications aren't worth it.

              If you want to make up your hours and there is work to be done then I think the government should let you do so.  Of course, the same rules regarding OT, etc. should apply to you as they do to those of us in the private sector - you don't get to work so many hours that you get OT pay.

              You should not get special treatment.  You should get treated like private sector workers get treated.

            •  There is just no way that you should get paid ... (0+ / 0-)

              ... if you didn't do any work. Bottom line is that for a federal employee, this shutdown is now a paid vacation, and that's wrong.

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