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  •  I ask again: what are you basing this on? (0+ / 0-)

    Have you made a study of the effects of panic on generally sane people?

    You are still talking right over the point that panic can make people temporarily incapable of rational judgment.  It is not about "thinking you're in more danger" if taken by the police, it's about the impulse to flee becoming strong enough to override your thinking.  Which is, again, right there in the definition of "panic."

    And the non-broken human mind is perfectly capable of succumbing to temporary panic and then coming back up out of it into rationality.  Assuming that the body housing the mind isn't shot to death first.

    •  Besides the fact that I was right.... (0+ / 0-)

      Besides the fact that we are learning the woman suffered from paranoid delusions, my statement stands as a general proposition.

      Sure, panic can suppress rational decision-making. That's where more powerful impressions take over. If you're alone in the woods, perhaps fear, or other instinct might come into play.

      When, however, you're facing a phalanx of police officers (or soldiers), you are confronting a cultural image that's been imprinted on to all of our psyches. That image overpowers any short-circuiting induced by general panic. We automatically understand that we are facing overwhelming lethal force.

      If we are not deluded, drugged, committed to fighting to the death, or otherwise legitimately terrified of the consequences of capture by the police, we automatically understand that anything other than surrender might result in or extermination, which would be worse than simply surrendering.

      So, if you don't have a particular reason to fear the police, you will stop.

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      by FischFry on Fri Oct 04, 2013 at 01:13:56 PM PDT

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      •  I haven't been talking about this particular case (0+ / 0-)

        for several replies now; I've been talking about the general functions of panic.

        On which I am still waiting for you to tell me what your basis is for asserting that the "automatic understanding" that fleeing will get you killed would somehow overpower the fight-or-flight response, when the reason the word "panic" exists is because precisely the opposite so often happens.

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