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  •  And societies that don't talk don't stay societies (5+ / 0-)

    This is at the heart of every problem we see now: A general, genuine lack of immune response to surprising point of view.

    •  rarely use the word "believe" (1+ / 0-)
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      but i believe in communication.  and of course it's difficult... we all perceive our environment in vastly unique ways.  my spouse and i are one example. we help keep one another open to different ways of seeing and sometimes even understanding. again, it ain't easy, it isn't always anything close to smooth or comfortable, but it's sure enlightening.  ;-)

      my dad and i didn't agree on just about anything, ever.  i give him all credit however for my belief in the goodness and power of communication; he stated often and lived it to the end.

      i'd rather argue with someone and shake hands when it's done than pretend the world around me is all fine and dandy.

      "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

      by kj in missouri on Sat Oct 05, 2013 at 10:46:48 AM PDT

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      •  And this is at the heart of the crisis (2+ / 0-)

        The Republicans in general got sick and tired of talking with the rest of the country long ago.

        Now we're tired of talking to them.

        •  granted, (1+ / 0-)
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          i'm tired of trying to reason with them.  i sort of blew out on that in 2004!  (although to be real, i did try again later.)

          i don't know if we're not so much tired of trying to talk to them as the understanding that there is no "them" there.   there is no longer an identifiable ideology... the republicans blew past Reagan, accelerated past Poppy Bush and have hit warp speed since GWB.  

          when Trent Lott is left scratching his head, i think the facts are pretty clear that this isn't republicanism.   i hope the rank and file, who still don't seem to have a clue what's happened since 2000, let alone 1955, get shaken to their core.  

          and that's what i'm trying to do with family members in a 'once again, folks, these are just the facts.'

          what are you thinking and seeing?

          "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

          by kj in missouri on Sat Oct 05, 2013 at 01:37:02 PM PDT

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          •  It's violent allergic reaction (2+ / 0-)

            The only recourse is deterrence, containment and, in extremis, elimination.

            They do not want to talk to us, coexist with us, be with us in any way.

            And we outnumber them immensely. They are utterly wigged about that and not even thinking about where this goes if they have their way.

            In terms of practical functionality in life, they're fine.

            Sociologically speaking, they've gone mad.

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