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  •  Boehner may be afraid for his job as Speaker... (4+ / 0-)

    ... but according to numerous reports, he does not want to be saddled with the legacy of being the guy who let the U.S. default.

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    by Bob Johnson on Fri Oct 04, 2013 at 11:52:42 AM PDT

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    •  I've been reading those reports in the NYT, but (1+ / 0-)
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      I'm also thinking that if he capitulate it would be such an humiliating defeat that he may try to hang in there to save face a little too long, and then things may spiral out of control.

      As it is, as of today, this whole thing is extremely dangerous, and it keeps getting more so every minute.

      •  Well, being the known forever as the guy who let (0+ / 0-)

        ... his country default is far worse than a momentary humiliation and even worse than potentially losing his Speakership.

        If he let the country default to save his job as Speaker (or to avoid humiliation), he would go down as one of the most craven political leaders of all time.

        And as bad a guy as he is, I don't think he wants that.

        Calling other DKos members "weenies" is a personal insult and therefore against site rules.

        by Bob Johnson on Fri Oct 04, 2013 at 12:05:14 PM PDT

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        •  I don't think people realize what we're dealing (2+ / 0-)
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          with here when it comes to what these people are capable of doing.  Time will tell.

          All we can do now is hope for the best, and of course, stay active contacting Congress, etc.

          •  On that we agree. (1+ / 0-)
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            Ray Pensador

            Personally, I think this whole thing (shutdown, default, impeachment of Obama) is the plan; last-ditch effort of the desperate.

            Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
            I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
            —Spike Milligan

            by polecat on Fri Oct 04, 2013 at 12:23:44 PM PDT

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