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  •  Keep calm and carry on. (1+ / 0-)
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    So there's (at least) two good things that came out of england being under threat of attack, and actual attack.

    One - The NHS was born. The banding together of brits when the shit had hit the fan carried over into a solid creation of banding-together-for-common-health.

    Two - The phrase "Keep calm and carry on".

    I cannot begin to imagine what sort of condition the brits would have been in if they had not kept calm and carried on at a time when there were actual bombs falling from the sky at any moment onto their head. Not to mention how well they kept calm and carried on after the 7/7 bombs of 2005. Such stoicism as described in this quote...

    In sharp contrast to the United States, where many Americans felt the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks transformed them forever, Britons seemed determined to show that Thursday's blasts wouldn't alter their way of life.

    "It's absolutely the reverse of the United States.. . . We'll treat this [terror campaign] purely as an inconvenience," said Paul Dadge, a volunteer rescuer whose image appeared on the front page of several of Europe's major newspapers.

    And encapsulated in this quote from the same article...
    "It's upsetting what happened, but as you can see we are going about our day-to-day business," said Sarah Scott, a retired cashier who was dropping off a friend at a rail terminal.
    Keep calm and carry on, indeed.
    •  Hard to say... (3+ / 0-)

      what might have been the purpose for this comment as it does seems rather OT to bring up reaction to terror attacks in england (sic) in this diary?

      7. Threadjacking.

      This is a fun one, because it truly is subjective on a variety of levels. Threadjacking is diverting a comment thread from its original focus. Based on this definition, it's actually hard to find any comment thread with more than 10 comments that doesn't have some threadjacking involved. Our diaries are less of a dictate on what to discuss, and more of a starting point for a free-wheeling discussion. So 99 percent of threadjacking is fine, and actually is what makes our comment threads so much fun.

      The actual problem is with malicious threadjacking — the kind of threadjacking designed to derail a productive conversation, whether because the 'jacker hates the diarist, or because s/he is unhappy with the topic of discussion. This is obviously a problem in areas in which the community is internally divided. And it's one of those things that can't be easily defined.

      The best way to call out an explicit threadjack is when it occurs together with a violation of one of the other rules — usually the one against personal insults.

      But to give JayFromPA the benefit of the doubt in this instance, it may be this was meant to be an opportunity to share some pertinent information, like this?
      The United Kingdom has one of the lowest rates of gun homicides in the world.[6] There were 0.04 recorded intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants in 2010. Gun homicides accounted for 2.4% of all homicides in the year 2009.[7]

      With the exception of Northern Ireland, it has been public policy that police officers in the United Kingdom should not generally be armed with firearms.[8][9][10] Shooting fatalities of members of the police are extremely rare; there were three in England and Wales in the eleven-year period from 2000/01 to 2010/11.[11]

      Stiff Upper Lip, and all that...


      •  Using alternatives. You understand the concept,no? (0+ / 0-)

        According to the FBI, there were 1.2 million violent crimes committed in the US during 2011. Link

        According to the UK government, there were 1.94 million violent crimes in the UK during 2011. link In case you're thinking of pretending to get lost looking for the number, try page 16.  ;-)

        There are almost exactly five times as many people in the US as in the UK – 314 million vs. 63 million. The violent crime rate in the UK is 3,079 per 100,000, and in the US it is 386 per 100,000 population.

        For some reason, Piers Morgan doesn’t talk about how the average brit is eight times more likely to be the victim of violent crime than the average american.

        Is that why he is here, instead of there? If it was so much better and safer there than here, why has he not gone home?

      •  And my comment was about getting the vapors. (0+ / 0-)

        The Brits didn't get the vapors during the blitz, when bombs were falling on their heads. The people who get the vapors and look for the nearest fainting couch just at the thought of a gun nearby in a neighbor's house.... Sheesh.

        •  Exactly, JayFromPA. Thanks for your confession. (3+ / 0-)

          LinSea's diary was not written about Piers Morgan, or about me... or you.

          LinSea came here to share her feelings about a traumatic instance of domestic violence involving guns --- an incident that just cost a neighbor's life, leaving his wife to become a widow with several orphaned children --- that happened literally in her back yard and the house behind hers.

          LinSea wrote this diary to share her feelings and hoping to find support from the Daily Kos community.

          You might at least have shown LinSea the courtesy of acknowledging her feelings. Or, you could have just stayed out.

          But for some reason, you came in to deflect and suggest the diarist and others who are tired and fed up with gun violence are just "getting the vapors"???

          The people who get the vapors and look for the nearest fainting couch just at the thought of a gun nearby in a neighbor's house.... Sheesh.
          Maybe somebody here could learn something from this quiz:

          What's Your EQ?

          Or, maybe not.

          C'est la vie.

          In any case, find further discussion here:

          What Is Emotional Intelligence?

          Sheesh, indeed.

          "All learning has an emotional base."
                                                                      ~ Plato
          Hope you understand the concept.
          •  Accurate assignment of blame is crucial to sanity. (0+ / 0-)

            If a driver intentionally veers into oncoming traffic, it is an act of fraud upon the public to report it as a car accident because there was nothing accidental about the incident. And it is even worse to bemoan the event in a tone that implies that the problem with the head-on collision is the fault of the car.

            Yet that is the level of sanity shown here. Blame the gun for the creation of the widow, sure sure. If the guy had hung himself would the blame have been placed on the rope? No way, it's just not sane to blame the inanimate object rope for what the guy did. But it's okay to blame the gun.

            And then fall on the fainting couch and hyperventilate about the nearness of an intentional suicide.

            Seriously, the liberals of today are spineless. Where are the liberals of yesteryear, when they had the spine to lead a nation in protest against the vietnam war? Where is the offspring of those who had enough steel in their hearts to stand toe to toe outside the pentagon?

            Where are the liberals like this picture of Jan K? Why have they all been replaced with fearful shadows of people who tremble at the sight of an authority figure?

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