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  •  Nobody Votes for 13 Months (4+ / 0-)
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    and when they do, our voters mostly stay home.

    Please let's work to solve the problems we actually face.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Oct 06, 2013 at 11:24:09 PM PDT

    •  Who is suggesting otherwise? (8+ / 0-)

      I wrote a diary about a poll I found interesting.

      I agree that we need to turn out our voters.

    •  I don't know about Ohio, Gooserock, (8+ / 0-)

      but here in PA we have an election coming up on Nov. 5.

      I have already requested the day off, just so I can sleep in and still get to the poll with plenty of time.

      No, it's not a BIG election cycle, but anytime in this red sea I can vote for a D, I'm going to do it.

      And who knows? Maybe my meager vote can make a difference in a down-state election. Probably not, but it's a sure win for the Rs if everyone sane stays home.

      Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

      by Youffraita on Sun Oct 06, 2013 at 11:39:56 PM PDT

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      •  Here in Virginia, too. (13+ / 0-)

        I cannot wait to lay waste to Cucinelli and the entire slate of ideological kooks on the ballot. The Tea Party will get just what is coming to them in my state very soon.

        •  Oh, I hope so! (3+ / 0-)
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          I hope that for here, too, but we're stuck with Toomey (bleah) and the Idiot in Harrisburg for a while longer.

          My rep in DC, alas, is not going anywhere until he dies of a coronary or stroke. They didn't have to gerrymander this district to make it safe for an idiot. This idiot has been reelected for I think about 20 years. He's a Teahadist from the primordial soup. He's the Pitts, literally: Joe Pitts.

          Scum of the Earth, and proud of it, our Joe. Votes against his constituents every. single. time.

          I hope he's proud of having enriched himself at the expense of the Amish and Mennonites and other lower-middle-class people who keep him in office.

          Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

          by Youffraita on Sun Oct 06, 2013 at 11:53:39 PM PDT

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          •  Oh that makes me so sad. (6+ / 0-)

            I'm Mennonite!!! Not practicing anymore, but I was raised in the church, and there are many, many wonderful things about the Mennonite faith.

            My father's a science prof, so we always lived in college towns and attended very liberal Mennonite churches. The focus was always on mission work for the poor, disaster assistance and peace-oriented activities (Mennonites are one of a handful of faiths traditionally allowed to register as conscietious objectors).

            It makes me sick that more conservative Mennonites and the Amish have been duped by these war-mongering scoundrels who stand against every principle the church espouses.

            •  Well, I may have painted with (2+ / 0-)
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              an overly broad brush...but it's true that there are tons of Mennonites and Amish here, and while I live in the city (which is pretty blue) the surrounding county is very red, and includes a lot of Anabaptists.

              And many of our Mennonites are indeed more progressive -- like your family. I myself was raised in a more-liberal Anabaptist tradition yet my parents always voted GOP.

              My mother voted GOP b/c her father did. Her father, btw, was a convert to an Anabaptist tradition (Brethren). Why did he vote GOP? They were the party of the rich, and he wanted to be rich.

              You see the inherent contradiction with the religion he apparently espoused.

              Irony takes a worse beating from Republicans than Wile E. Coyote does from Acme. --Tara the Antisocial Social Worker

              by Youffraita on Mon Oct 07, 2013 at 12:26:22 AM PDT

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              •  Oh, I know you are correct. (3+ / 0-)
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                Both of my father's two brothers became Republicans. I've just never understood how they reconciled their faith to their politics, particularly when my paternal grandparents steadfastly refused to vote at all for fear they'd be called for jury duty (they did not want to be in the position of judging or condemning a man).

                It really saddens me that so many have been sucked in by the GOP when the Democratic platform aligns so much closer to the tenets of the faith. And because I was interested, I did some Googling and found this interesting article.

                Thanks for the conversation, Youffraita! I'm off the bed, finally.

            •  Always delighted... (3+ / 0-)
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              to encounter other Mennonites/Anabaptists on DK!

              I'm a professor's-daughter as well, and active in a progressive urban Mennonite congregation.  My Mennonite grandfather swung from GOP to Dem back sometime mid-century or so and his descendants have stayed that course, but other branches of the family remain duped by the war-mongering scoundrels (nice turn of phrase!)


              If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality. - Bishop Desmond Tutu

              by AnnieJo on Mon Oct 07, 2013 at 03:44:36 AM PDT

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          •  Oh, Joe Pitts (0+ / 0-)

            I met him back in the late 70's, when my mom and stepfather were heavily into local Republican politics. I don't remember being impressed.

            I'm even less impressed now.

    •  When we actually run on a progressive (0+ / 0-)

      agenda we get progressives fired up and out.  The extremes in each party vote in the mid-terms.  D's NEVER give us anything to be fired up about so we are not voting for "something" we're voting "against" someone.  So, less of us turn out.  It's been that way for me for at least since I was old enough to vote for Clinton the first time.  D's always run on being a less extreme version of the R's.  I shouldn't say this but D's really need to be running a stealth campaign & getting all those angry folks regarding "Stand Your Ground" registered to vote.  They really have not tapped into how ANGRY my community STILL is over the Trayvon Martin case.  That will get even the AA youth out to vote.  People are still seething over that verdict.  Stealthily nationalize the Stand Your Ground laws as an issue.  Stealthily nationalize New York's "Stop and Frisk" as an issue.  D's have got to give progressives a reason to go out and VOTE.  Something that touches peoples everyday lives.  The AA & Latin community would come out in droves.  It's not scientific but when I poll my circle of friends and family (mostly middle class folks) I haven't had anyone who hasn't been harassed by law enforcement in one way or another.  So, again..I say D's are always high brow minded and always miss opportunities to get folks to the polls.  That hasn't worked out so well for us in the past atleast not mid-terms.  Can't keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.  Folks are angry because lack of jobs, lack of money, just LACK for some time now.  We've tried to be hopeful with POTUS and he's done a lot of good but most folks still LACK and that "HOPE" has turned to frustration and despair.  Folks want result and they are seething with rage.  Happy happy joy joy isn't going to cut it.  R's figured out a long time ago anger get folks to the polls in mid-terms.  Americans have a lot to be angry about.

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