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  •  Because Ray isn't for anything of that sort. (1+ / 0-)
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    Not only is he against anything of that sort, he's against the people who are for anything of that sort.

    Look at the knee jerk ideological bile in the diary about home care workers getting minimum wage:

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    You're not going to get a "that's one way to help" from Ray.

    "One faction of one party in one House of Congress in one branch of government doesn't get to shut down the entire government just to refight the results of an election."

    by Inland on Mon Oct 07, 2013 at 12:31:11 PM PDT

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    •  Dragging HRed comments in from another unrelated (1+ / 0-)
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      diary for purposes of speaking negatively of the diarist.

      Why?




      Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

      by DeadHead on Mon Oct 07, 2013 at 04:20:46 PM PDT

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      •  The funny thing is that if people look at that (1+ / 0-)
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        comment they'll be left scratching their heads as to why it was HR'd.

      •  Because it is related. (2+ / 0-)
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        Here, let me spoon feed you.

        a) Diarist posts diary that is, despite its length, vague about goals and has no prescriptions on how to accomplish them

        b) Various Commenters ask why diarist won't support some concrete measures that could provide concrete assistance to people.

        c) I bring up that the diarist actually condemns as "crumbs" changes in policies that actually help people.

        d) Patrol dog comes in to corral commentary with questions that, amazingly enough, manages to evade both the generality of the diary and the concrete suggestions of the commenters with the implication that all will be well if people just stopped pointing out the obvious.

        "One faction of one party in one House of Congress in one branch of government doesn't get to shut down the entire government just to refight the results of an election."

        by Inland on Mon Oct 07, 2013 at 05:45:02 PM PDT

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        •  Non-responsive blathering that proves nothing. (1+ / 0-)
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          Par for the course, for you.

          And who's the patrol dog?




          Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

          by DeadHead on Mon Oct 07, 2013 at 09:05:31 PM PDT

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          •  You asked why, I told you why. (0+ / 0-)

            But to you, posts are nothing more than an opportunity for you to type something stupid and hit "reply to this".  

            "One faction of one party in one House of Congress in one branch of government doesn't get to shut down the entire government just to refight the results of an election."

            by Inland on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 09:19:08 AM PDT

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      •  Same reason there was a diary written the otherday (0+ / 0-)

        That you supported (but then it was deleted)...oh, was that the same diary you criticized someone else for supposedly inconsistent behavior?

        While you dream of Utopia, we're here on Earth, getting things done.

        by GoGoGoEverton on Mon Oct 07, 2013 at 07:08:15 PM PDT

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        •  Huh? You're trying to call hypocrisy (0+ / 0-)

          on my part based on some deleted diary?

          Jesus Christ.

          At least provide a fucking comment for me to address, instead of some amateur hour phantom bullshit that you sorta kinda remember happening.




          Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ J. Garcia

          by DeadHead on Mon Oct 07, 2013 at 08:59:11 PM PDT

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      •  it provides useful context (1+ / 0-)
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        For instance, you recced Ray's comment that "if people look at that comment they'll be left scratching their heads as to why it was HR'd."

        OK, let's try that.

        Tom, here's my take about where you stand: (0+ / 18-)

        You are are blind apologist; a minimalist happy to take any crumbs from the increasingly oppressive system, and willing to bury your head in the sand with your blind support of my-party-right-or-wrong view of the world.

        I see people who hold that view as people who are willing to sacrifice integrity and honesty in the name of expediency, and a misguided centrism or pragmatism born out of acceptance of the proposition that there is nothing else that can be done to address the systemic problem of the utterly corrupt system.

        As such, as a pure example of an apologist, you feel empowered by the type of group-think that has always been the true cause of oppression.

        The type of group-think that seeks to suppress and marginalize voices of dissent, while claiming to be the ones truly standing up for the oppressed and the dispossessed, in a blatant and clear example of double-speak.

        That's my honest opinion of you and those who your views: a uncritical and blind apologist of a corrupt system.

        You see Tom, I don't have to hide behind anybody to speak my mind.  That's how I see you.  I understand how you feel about me.

        It is very likely that one of us is correct in their assessment.

        If you and Ray are left scratching your heads as to why that comment was HR'd, that is interesting for the rest of us to know. Maybe Ray should append that to every diary, just so we're all clear about where he is coming from.

        "I am not sure how we got here, but then, I am not really sure where we are." -Susan from 29

        by HudsonValleyMark on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 09:47:18 AM PDT

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