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  •  The question (2+ / 0-)
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    ban nock, burnt out

    really is not if mineral extraction should occur or not, we live in a technological society that would not exist without mineral extraction of some sort.  The question is how much regulation do we put and enforce on he extractors.

    IMHO we put few and then do not vigorously enforce the few laws we have to make extraction environmentally safe.

    Extraction might be on a few acres relatively speaking but mine tallings wash down through 100,000 of thousands of square miles in the watershed, and that is just one type of extraction pollution.

    We have the ability to do extraction much better then we do but if we continue to let industry argue like big companies have free speech and rights they will continue to pollute the commons.

    "In short, I was a racketeer for Capitalism" Marine Corp Brigadier General Smedley D. Butler

    by Kevskos on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 07:11:45 AM PDT

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    •  Look at mountain-top removal as an example (4+ / 0-)
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      ban nock, Eyesbright, burnt out, Kevskos

      It has become an unacceptable and unsustainable way to extract coal. Even though Peabody (the only company name with which I'm familiar thanks to John Prine and the Navajo/Hopi tribes) says they'll put the mountains back when they're done, this hasn't really happened yet and is a prime example of what Kevskos says here. We already have regulation; it's the enforcement part that is successfully watered down by the large corporations making the money off our "public" lands.

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      by marykmusic on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 07:38:54 AM PDT

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      •  Yes. (1+ / 0-)
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        Read any land use management plan written by the BLM, they basically give the shop away without the extractors having to justify the need and how the will protect the environment. There are environmental requirements already written that then get watered down by industry lobbying. I have not read one written by the Forest Service but I expect they are the same.

        It would be interesting to see how many Federal Land Managers revolve to the extracting industries after spending their junior years working for the Feds.

        "In short, I was a racketeer for Capitalism" Marine Corp Brigadier General Smedley D. Butler

        by Kevskos on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 06:30:07 PM PDT

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