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  •  You guys don't get Obama. (10+ / 0-)

    You just don't.  He's not a Kossack, he's president.  If he prosecutes Bush then he opens later POTUSes up for the same prosecution.  If he gives into petty powergrab tactics over the debt limit, then he's making the case for the Unitarian Executive we all claimed to hate under Nixon and Bush2.  

    At some point, he has to represent the OFFICE not just his agenda.  

    No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. - Edward R. Murrow

    by CrazyHorse on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 12:24:16 PM PDT

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    •  o maybe (1+ / 0-)
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      maryabein

      but i still like dreaming over my sig.

      Addington's perpwalk? TRAILHEAD of accountability for Bush-2 Crimes. @Hugh: There is no Article II power which says the Executive can violate the Constitution.

      by greenbird on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 12:26:48 PM PDT

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    •  He's there to represent THIS COUNTRY (2+ / 0-)
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      It is not exercising Unitary Executive power to use a remedy long enumerated in the Constitution, and germane to either Congress or the Executive Branch.

      If his "agenda" isn't to keep this country up, running, and with the Treasury appropriately reflecting the full faith and credit of the United States of America, using any means available to him, regardless of the fucking "optics", then he's got the wrong job.

      This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

      by lunachickie on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 12:29:32 PM PDT

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    •  Um. Yes. (5+ / 0-)
      If he prosecutes Bush then he opens later POTUSes up for the same prosecution.
      That's precisely why he needed to do it.

      "But the traitors will pretend / that it's gettin' near the end / when it's beginning" P. Ochs

      by JesseCW on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 12:35:37 PM PDT

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      •  I cannot agree more. (3+ / 0-)
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        We should want future scofflaws to be prosecuted, especially if there are Presidents. I don't want my Presidents thinking that they are above the law--because they hold the keys to the most powerful military in the world! I don't understand why anyone thinks differently . . .

        "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

        by bryduck on Tue Oct 08, 2013 at 01:34:27 PM PDT

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    •  Prosecuting Bush or Cheney was never in the cards (1+ / 0-)
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      ...of course. But kossacks, myself included, were royally pissed off that Holder never prosecuted any of the CIA torturers (not to mention the bankers, which would have been MASSIVELY popular with the general public). John Yoo, or whatever his name is, not being prosecuted was/is an outrage.

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