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  •  That's what it's being used for every 3 months. (9+ / 0-)

    a deficit terrorist ultimatum.

    Those who deflect debates about the issues with complaints about tone usually have a lot to atone for.

    by priceman on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 09:17:15 AM PDT

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    •  The simple truth, directly from the President... (17+ / 0-)

      (this is a repeat of a comment I made downthread; in advance, I apologize for posting this twice, but I think it's important)

      ...less than ten months ago...

      Wherein President Obama Begins To Explain: "How Democrats Became Liberal Republicans"...where the President stated on tv, the following...

      Obama: More Moderate Republican Than Socialist
      By JORDAN FABIAN (@Jordanfabian)
      ABC News/Univision
      Dec. 14, 2012

      President Barack Obama believes that if he were president 25 years ago, his economic policies would make him a moderate Republican.

      During an interview with Noticias Univision 23, the network's Miami affiliate newscast, Obama pushed back against the accusation made in some corners of south Florida's Cuban-American and Venezuelan communities that he wants to instill a socialist economic system in the U.S. The president said he believes few actually believe that.

      "I don't know that there are a lot of Cubans or Venezuelans, Americans who believe that," Obama said. "The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican…."

      Bold type is commenter’s emphasis.

      Here’s Bartlett from the Fiscal Times, 10 months ago…

      How Democrats Became Liberal Republicans
      The Fiscal Times
      December 21, 2012

      Many on the left are puzzled by Barack Obama’s apparent willingness to support dramatic reductions in federal social spending. It is only because Republicans demand even more radical cuts in spending that Obama’s fiscal conservatism is invisible to the general public. But those on the political left know it and are scared.

      Yesterday, left-leaning law professor Neil Buchanan penned a scathing attack on Obama for abandoning the Democratic Party’s long-held policies toward the poor, and for astonishing naiveté in negotiating with Republicans. Said Buchanan:

      “The bottom line is that President Obama has already revealed himself to be unchanged by the election and by the last two years of stonewalling by the Republicans. He still appears to believe, at best, in a milder version of orthodox Republican fiscal conservatism – an approach that would be a fitting starting position for a right-wing politician in negotiations with an actual Democrat. Moreover, he still seems to believe that the Republicans are willing to negotiate in good faith.”

      Others on the left, such as New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, former Secretary of Labor Robert Reich and others raise similar concerns. They cannot understand why Obama, having won two elections in a row with better than 50 percent of the vote – something accomplished only by presidents Dwight Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan in the postwar era – and holding a powerful advantage due to the fiscal cliff, would seemingly appear willing to gut social spending while asking for only a very modest contribution in terms of taxes from the wealthy.

      The dirty secret is that Obama simply isn’t very liberal, nor is the Democratic Party any more. Certainly, the center of the party today is far to the right of where it was before 1992, when Bill Clinton was elected with a mission to move the party toward the right. It was widely believed by Democratic insiders that the nation had moved to the right during the Reagan era and that the Democratic Party had to do so as well or risk permanent loss of the White House…

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      The truth is that many "Democrats" can't handle the truth.

      And, those same people that can't handle the truth, when confronted with it, then try to spin it as follows: "Well, everyone knew the President was pretty conservative as far as his economic thinking was concerned."

      The corporatist/"New Democrat" strategy/game plan, for years now, has been to push liberal social reforms, while simultaneously pushing for maintenance and enhancement of the Reagan Republican "management" of our economy (a/k/a Inverted Totalitarianism).

      Traditional Democrats have a problem with this...IMHO, mostly because the truth is lt's little more than status quo economic bullshit. And, for it to be supported in a period where our country's experiencing the greatest level of income inequality in its history is, simply, a freakin' TRAVESTY.

      It is ECONOMIC TERRORISM, writ large...and far too many people, even here, attempt to rationalize it as being something other than that. We're talking about The Economic Terrorists Among Us. And, they're comprised of the leadership of both parties.

      But, again, people simply can't handle the TRUTH.

      "I always thought if you worked hard enough and tried hard enough, things would work out. I was wrong." --Katharine Graham

      by bobswern on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 09:40:10 AM PDT

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