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  •  If the debt crisis is (4+ / 0-)

    only six weeks down the road again, the President is negotiating under the threat of a default--once again.  Moreover, since the government will not be funded under this proposal, the President can't even engage in a dance without the appearance he's collapsing before the shutdown imbroglio.

    •  He should not be negotiating at all right now. (1+ / 0-)
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      He does not have to.

      That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

      by concernedamerican on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 08:31:43 AM PDT

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      •  Did you read the story? (0+ / 0-)

        I have a hard time interpreting what you're writing in light of the Republicans' proposal to push the debt six week down the road while keeping the government closed in the meantime.

        •  it's simple (0+ / 0-)

          Accept the deal, but don't change your position.

          Obama has been saying all along that, in order to begin negotiations, you need a clean debt ceiling increase and a clean CR. If Republicans want to give us a clean DL increase for six weeks, great, but reiterate that we still need a clean CR to begin negotiations.

          Doing anything else at this point would be a flip-flop, actually, and risks turning public opinion against us.

          "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." - Benjamin Franklin

          by CaptUnderpants on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 08:51:02 AM PDT

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          •  The better deal (1+ / 0-)
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            for the Republicans would be to do clean CRs for both and create the appearance the President is negotiating under their hostage-taking.

          •  The kicker, though (3+ / 0-)

            is that (as I understand it), the Republicans want to give a clean DL increase, but negotiations have to begin BEFORE a clean CR?

            If that's the case, I would agree with the WH: clean DL and clean CR, THEN negotiations can begin.  But as I pointed out earlier, negotiations are fruitless: the tea party contingent is absolutely committed to no compromise, the Dems will give, and Boehner will come back saying "I can't get the votes for that deal, give me more."

            Last time, 98% wasn't enough.

            The most violent element in society is ignorance.

            by Mr MadAsHell on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 09:32:15 AM PDT

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            •  agreed (1+ / 0-)
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              Forget about any sort of Grand Bargain - any GOP congressman that uses "Obama" and "bargain" in the same sentence is getting his butt primaried.

              Also, I'm reading now that the DL is going to come with strings attached - namely, that negotiations have to begin before the CR is passed, and no extraordinary measures on the DL. If that's the case, then no deal. I could accept a clean DL increase for six weeks, but it has to be truly clean.

              "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." - Benjamin Franklin

              by CaptUnderpants on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 10:11:15 AM PDT

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