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  •  This report is far different from TPM (5+ / 0-)

    TPM suggested there were major conditions written into the bill: a negotiations requirement and a ban on using extraordinary measures to keep the treasury running past the deadline.

    If there are no such conditions and it is just a handshake, then Obama will sign the 6 week extension. The Senate will pass a version with a longer extension and the two will be reconciled.  Once the GOP gives up the debt limit hostage, it's gone for good. Ryan will have been shot down. That is a good result for the country.

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    by khyber900 on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 10:53:36 AM PDT

    •  They haven't given up the hostage (10+ / 0-)
      Once the GOP gives up the debt limit hostage, it's gone for good.
      I don't think coming back to this same mess in six weeks qualifies as giving up the hostage.
      •  It isn't politically tenable for the GOP to use (3+ / 0-)
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        the debt limit threat again.  They blew their political capital on that one already.  The key issue is whether they will pass a clean debt limit extension or not.  Clean is the key word.

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        by khyber900 on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 11:06:51 AM PDT

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        •  Totally disagree, they're in a better position (5+ / 0-)

          They've been arguing that the debt ceiling is fair game for budget negotiations because it's been done in the past, the Dems and commentators have been arguing it never has been used for negotiations.  Well, it is now!  How can the administration say they won't negotiate with hostage takers when they just spent the last 6 weeks negotiating with hostage takers.  It was their strongest argument and it played with the American people.

          If the administration signs off on this, they've fundamentally changed the way we do political negotiations.  Hostage taking will become the norm.

        •  On the contrary (4+ / 0-)

          I think it will embolden them.

          The key movers haven't blown any political capital - they're in safe districts and safe states.

          This would be a win for them. A small win but a win none the less.

      •  Well they did free the baby. The threw it up in (2+ / 0-)
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        the air and now all we have to do is catch the baby before it hits the ground. Terror Games.

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        by 88kathy on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 12:14:13 PM PDT

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