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  •  Somewhat (32+ / 0-)

    He did reply a bit, but not enough for me to put a big "update - with reply" thing. He says he leans towards the Democratic party today, but he wishes the Republicans would become more moderate. He also says he believes Obamacare is more good than bad and that Democrats are the only ones who will improve it, rather than trying to junk it.

    •  Cool response actually. (17+ / 0-)

      I have many "moderate" friends who are fleeing the Rs to become independents. I think your friend's response is about as good as it gets as they walk out the door.

      Heads up though ... my concern is that they decide to join us as moderate Ds in our 2-party system and unleash the corporatist Blue Dogs on us.

      "Let us not look back to the past with anger, nor towards the future with fear, but look around with awareness." James Thurber

      by annan on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 05:05:39 PM PDT

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      •  Some of that Blue Dog flu has already infected the (5+ / 0-)
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        Dems. It's made the Party drift toward many of the neoliberal corporatist and militarist policies it has been promoting in the last several years, and it's the reason that the White House is aching for a Grand Bargain sell-out of Social Security and Medicare. But yeah... more Blue Dogs is probably what we'll get in the Dem "tent" widens too much more. But if it leads to a Dem supermajority (like California has), then I will celebrate it.

        "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

        by Kombema on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 05:38:15 PM PDT

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    •  I, too, wish the Republicans would become more (9+ / 0-)

      moderate, and not just for the obvious reason of getting us out of the current mess.

      If there were a moderate Republican Party, or even a moderate wing of the Republican Party (as it is now, there are three wings: the conservative wing, the radical wing, and the apostate wing), Democrats wouldn't feel so constrained to welcome any sane, thinking human being into our party, no matter how far their ideology may stray from core Democratic values. We could be free to be unapologetic liberals, with maybe even a few "left-wingers" of our own, to balance out the scales.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 06:50:38 PM PDT

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      •  The Worst of It Is.... (1+ / 0-)
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        Seeing the polls is what astounds me. Yes, they're all "good" in the sense that more ("most") people realize that it's the Republicans who are at fault, that slightly more people than not think Obamacare is good, and so on.

        What astounds me is that the numbers are not of landslide proportions. These are very obvious things. The Republicans voted to stop the economy, plain and simple. The excuses they offer, which tend to change from week to week, don't matter. They did it, and the numbers should reflect that with 85-15 results.

        Same with Obamacare and a fist full of other topics.

        The reason the numbers aren't better is, I believe, the media. Fox News and Hate Radio mainly, but the anemic national media, too, which has been maneuvered into the lowest form of reporting: "he said, she said" and "both sides do it".

        It's tough for real journalists. Look at Soledad O'Brien. An excellent journalist, one of the few. She actually asked probing questions and questioned false statements. Gone. There wasn't even a Liberal bent to her skills; she was just practicing journalism.

        And when the corporation booted her Liberals raised up in a huge protest. Not. Liberals did nothing. Not a peep. Imagine a corporation booting O'Reilly like they did O'Brien, or Doocy, or Hannity. Massive outrage, threats, wild charges, all pundits on auto-fire. But Liberals? Quiet as church mice.

        And that's why there are misinformed folks like your "moderate" friend. And that's why the poll numbers, which should be of landslide magnitude, only range, on topic to topic, from "moderately" good to good on subjects where truth is very obvious.

        The media. Fox and hate radio. They are destroying America.

        A Southerner in Yankeeland

        To save your life and our country, read "Pity The Billionaire" by Thomas Frank, and "Winner-Take-All-Politics" by Jacob S. Hacker and Paul Pierson. Then read more books.

        by A Southerner in Yankeeland on Fri Oct 11, 2013 at 10:51:55 AM PDT

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    •  I think you read that wrong (0+ / 0-)

      Sounded to me like he wasn't saying Obama was to blame for making the Repugs angry, but for trying to make nice with them.

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