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  •  If you think (0+ / 0-)

    my post was about other than brown anoles, you have a problem.

    I'm fully aware of the numerous invasive specifies right around my house and have a good awareness of the mess in the Glades.  That's NOT what I was talking about. I'm beginning to think you have a problem with any contradiction. You're not arguing, you're railing in response. Please DBAD.  You haven't gone there yet, but you're trending that way.

    What you haven't done and I don't think you can do in the case of the brown anole is show that many, if not nearly all of the escapees, came via cargo movements unrelated to them. They came as passengers, not prisoners as you would have it.  Maybe accidental passengers but still passengers.

    Like my grandparents.

    Peace.

    •  come onnnnnn . . . . . . (0+ / 0-)
      What you haven't done and I don't think you can do in the case of the brown anole is show that many, if not nearly all of the escapees, came via cargo movements unrelated to them.
      They were imported as pets for more than half a century.

      And the two places they first appeared, Tampa Bay and Miami,  are the two primary ports of entry for exotic plants and animals entering the eastern United States.

      They got here the same way everything from Burmese pythons to giant ameivas got here.

      In the end, reality always wins.

      by Lenny Flank on Tue Nov 12, 2013 at 10:14:27 AM PST

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      •  The endemic breed (0+ / 0-)

        of Cuban frogs that overrun this area? You also found these ugly things in pet shops?  I'm not talking cane toads and yes I know why they came and came to be endemic here.

        Have you ever been wrong?

        •  yes, Cuban frogs are on many reptile dealer lists (0+ / 0-)

          I kept them when I lived in Pennsylvania.

          PS--cane toads are on reptile dealer lists too, though that's not why they were originally imported into Florida.

          Have you ever been wrong?
          Plenty of times.  But not this time.

          In the end, reality always wins.

          by Lenny Flank on Tue Nov 12, 2013 at 01:04:19 PM PST

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          •  I don't think (0+ / 0-)

            the Cuban frogs I'm talking about are those that were your pets. These tend to be big dudes: 5-6 inches long and remarkably ugly.  Almost toad like, but apparently they are frogs. And very strictly nocturnal. If it's light they are very sound asleep. You can pick them up and move them (gently) and they don't notice  a thing.

            But anyway you are ruler here and I'm wrong. I'm sorry for troubling you.

            •  Cuban tree frogs . . . (0+ / 0-)

              formerly Hyla septentrionalis, now Osteopilus septentrionalis.

              I wrote a bit about them in one of the seven books I did for Simon and Schuster on exotic pets back in the late 90's. They are still on dealer import lists today.

              Kept them for over 20 years. Never thought they were ugly. But then I never thought amphiumas or trapdoor spiders were ugly, either.

              Heck, I've even kept cane toads as pets. I think they're cute.

              In the end, reality always wins.

              by Lenny Flank on Tue Nov 12, 2013 at 04:30:47 PM PST

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