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    •  Nonsense. (4+ / 0-)
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      Blah.

      Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses où des hommes accrédités ont tort. - Voltaire
      Don't trust anyone over 84414 - BentLiberal

      by BentLiberal on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 08:06:33 PM PDT

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      •  yeah cuz it was totally on-topic to the parent (20+ / 0-)

        comment.   no attention seeking going on up top, nah.  
        that's right, we're all blind as bats.

        "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

        by kj in missouri on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 08:18:17 PM PDT

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        •  Check with Cedwyn (7+ / 0-)

          She'll tell you there's no rule against posting up high (or replying to tip jars for that matter)

          But go ahead and be petty if you need to be.

          No more replies from me in this silly exchange. You're welcome to the last word, but I won't be reading it.

          Cheers, BL

          Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses où des hommes accrédités ont tort. - Voltaire
          Don't trust anyone over 84414 - BentLiberal

          by BentLiberal on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 08:26:11 PM PDT

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          •  you really should not throw stones about petty (7+ / 0-)

            Der Weg ist das Ziel

            by duhban on Thu Oct 10, 2013 at 08:33:37 PM PDT

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            •  LOL seriously (7+ / 0-)

              i wasn't even in this thread until now.  but hey you know, blahblahblah Cedwyn and what not.

              i think some folks need a nappie change.

              Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

              by Cedwyn on Fri Oct 11, 2013 at 02:21:36 AM PDT

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              •  Fair point (1+ / 0-)
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                Wasn't meant to disparage you, but I see your point.

                Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses où des hommes accrédités ont tort. - Voltaire
                Don't trust anyone over 84414 - BentLiberal

                by BentLiberal on Fri Oct 11, 2013 at 09:28:56 AM PDT

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                •  thanks for that (1+ / 0-)
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                  but what is the point in referencing me when all i say on the subject is site policy?  if the tip jar has a "reply to me" link, it's open for replies.  if there were some kind of problem with replying to tip jars, that wouldn't be an option. n'est ce pa?

                  Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

                  by Cedwyn on Fri Oct 11, 2013 at 11:26:07 AM PDT

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                  •  Uh...your history? Certain Health Insurance Reform (1+ / 0-)
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                    battles? One young kossack in Texas whose diaries you never failed to...visit?  Visit way up high where the important oxygen was?

                    Just a guess, Cedwyn.

                    As of 9pm 8/30/13: RETIRED Pie Warrior. Substance over Sh*t Flinging (as best as I am able) ~ JV

                    by JVolvo on Fri Oct 11, 2013 at 12:23:25 PM PDT

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                    •  good fucking god (1+ / 0-)
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                      four years ago, hey?  jesus h. christ on a cracker.

                      and here's the thing:  you're wrong.  there were plenty of her diaries i ignored completely.  what you never understood was that i always react to BS the same way, whomever the source.  you just never noticed/cared except in those diaries.  

                      and let's take a look at things four years out:  the public is wildly confused/scared regarding obamacare because of all the BS they heard floated around.  but contrary to all those diaries you referenced, PPACA is actually working pretty damn well, with premiums coming in very affordable for most people -- something hamsherCo was swearing up and down would never happen.  

                      i.e., 90% of what the diaries in question claimed was bullshit then and has been proven to be bullshit now that the law is more fully in effect.

                      and just fucking think about where we would be and how different things might be right now if people on this site and others of the left weren't running around all "Kill the bill," "it sucks, but let's support it anyway," "what a total cave sell-out," etc.

                      worse than useless, i tell ya what.

                      Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

                      by Cedwyn on Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 09:55:20 AM PDT

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                      •  Struck a nerve, eh? Well, stop asking questions (0+ / 0-)

                        where the answers piss you off and you'll be fine.

                        And as BentLiberal noted below, disruptive thread-jack tactics from the early days of Heritage Foundation-Care are your legacy here.  Might as well deal with it.

                        As of 9pm 8/30/13: RETIRED Pie Warrior. Substance over Sh*t Flinging (as best as I am able) ~ JV

                        by JVolvo on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 08:51:59 AM PDT

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                        •  who says i'm pissed? (0+ / 0-)

                          i just think it's pathetic that you're still on about four years ago, especially since i didn't even ask the question in question of you.

                          and i have yet to get an explanation as to how responding to the substance of a diary, albeit in disagreement, is "hijacking."

                          Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

                          by Cedwyn on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 10:34:00 AM PDT

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                          •  "good fucking god" "jesus h christ" "just fucking (0+ / 0-)

                            think about"

                            Hmmm, you don't seem happy.

                            But then, I don't really understand centrist, pragmatic, lean-to-the-right pov.

                            Yeah, 4 years ago.  Those heady, hopeful and changeful days when

                            [A]ny plan I sign must include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans - including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest - and choose what's best for your family.
                            was traded in for payoffs for Ben Nelson, appeasement to Joe Lieberman and concessions to Bart No-Choice Stupak. Weird, not a hostage-taking Republican in that crew. Double-weird, they're all lobbyists now.  Didn't see that coming.

                            Good Old Third Way Dealmaking.  I recall you cheered every step of the way. You even played the "Pass Then Fix" game, then, like Rahm, checked Health Insurance Reform off your list and wanted to move on.

                            So why so angry?

                            As of 9pm 8/30/13: RETIRED Pie Warrior. Substance over Sh*t Flinging (as best as I am able) ~ JV

                            by JVolvo on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 12:31:05 PM PDT

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                          •  oh, do shut up, portia (0+ / 0-)

                            i'm not angry.  like i said, i wasn't even talking to you and you can't let go of something from four years ago.  "good fucking god" and "jesus h. christ on a cracker" are quite appropriate responses.  it's astounding.

                            and again, you're wrong; i wanted single payer.  i thought we should have been shouting from the rooftops for that; then we might have actually landed at a public option.  

                            but noooo...since single payer didn't have a chance, activists started from the compromise position of the public option.  but i pushed for that, too.    

                            and once it was ACA or nothing, you bet i was all for the bill.  after watching clinton get nowhere and nothing attempted for 20 years, oh hell yah.  

                            it was unquestionably an improvement over the status quo.  rome wasn't built in a day and all that.

                            so anyhoo, other than your continuing obsession with me, what exactly is your point here?

                            Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

                            by Cedwyn on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 05:50:23 PM PDT

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                          •  retired pie warrior...LOL (0+ / 0-)

                            LOL

                            LOL

                            LOL

                            Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

                            by Cedwyn on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 05:51:19 PM PDT

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                          •  Funny how several Team Blue folks think they've (0+ / 0-)

                            scored such an immense gotcha re my sig line...which I wrote.  Fucking Duh seems like quite an appropriate response.

                            What part of "As best I'm able" is too complicated for you?

                            Now if I called you

                            a pathetic @@@ who thinks PR = good policy and dreams of &&& this POTUS' ### because he's soooo dreamy and besides, you %%%% weasle%%%% so who's going to listen to you?!?!
                            that would be baseless, petty, personal ad hom crap. ie pie.  None of that from me dear.

                            Re Why?  You whinged about comment on this POTUS' extrajudicial killing and decried it being brought up.

                            I pointed out it needs refreshing b/c so many here pretend it isn't happening OR it's the New Dem Way.  Both of those coping mechanism are unhealthy AND hurt the Democratic Party in the long run (ie after Jan 2017).

                            You're welcome.

                            As of 9pm 8/30/13: RETIRED Pie Warrior. Substance over Sh*t Flinging (as best as I am able) ~ JV

                            by JVolvo on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 04:26:23 PM PDT

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                          •  well, if doing your best (0+ / 0-)

                            won't let you let go of four years ago, i dunno, mang.

                            guess how often you cross my mind?  never.

                            you're welcome

                            Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

                            by Cedwyn on Wed Oct 16, 2013 at 04:28:59 AM PDT

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                  •  Ah well, you're the user who makes the rule! :) (1+ / 0-)
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                    By example anyway, heh

                    You're right, I could have just cited site policy as you often do.  But whether you like it or not, you're famous for that rule! :)

                    So in the moment, I thought it made my case stronger

                    Cheers and have a good weekend.

                    Il est dangereux d’avoir raison dans des choses où des hommes accrédités ont tort. - Voltaire
                    Don't trust anyone over 84414 - BentLiberal

                    by BentLiberal on Fri Oct 11, 2013 at 01:39:18 PM PDT

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              •  "Damn you, Cedwyn!!!!" (2+ / 0-)
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                so i should just blame you, instead of Obama, every time anyone disagrees with someone else on the blog?

                good. to. know.    ;-b

                "From single strands of light we build our webs." ~kj

                by kj in missouri on Fri Oct 11, 2013 at 12:45:19 PM PDT

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          •  Ha ^^^Fucking THIS^^^ (0+ / 0-)

            Teh Queen of not-hijacking will cite chapter and verse if this issue is brought up in a Sux diary.

            I think she has a keyword alert for "threadjack" "reply to tip jar" and "diary hijack".

            ALERT!  

            To The ParseMobile!

            As of 9pm 8/30/13: RETIRED Pie Warrior. Substance over Sh*t Flinging (as best as I am able) ~ JV

            by JVolvo on Fri Oct 11, 2013 at 09:30:27 AM PDT

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