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    It should be obvious to nearly anyone that the name Redskins is a racial slur which is why it is so offensive.  Since I am not native American, I cannot speak for everyone on this issue, but it also would appear that those teams who have used native American tribal names as their symbols must be very careful in their depiction of their mascots in a way that honors the tribes with respect.

    I am a graduate of Florida State which does use the name Seminoles.  From what I have read, the tribe has not objected to the use of their name or the depiction of the mascot.

    "I don't want to run the empire, I want to bring it down!" ~ Dr. Cornel West "It was a really naked declaration of imperialism." ~ Jeremy Scahill on Obama's speech to the UN

    by gulfgal98 on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 04:08:50 AM PDT

    •  Thanks for reading (3+ / 0-)

      and putting in your two cents.

      I always wondered what the real Seminoles thought of white kids in the stands at the games.

      I'm originally from Boston, and Florida State and the University of Florida always was a part of the Boston college sports culture.

      Bobby Bowden was kind of nefarious to a lot of folks who were not fans of how college football could dominate the culture on a campus.  

      I am a Loco-Foco. I am from the Elizabeth Warren wing of the Democratic Party.

      by LeftHandedMan on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 04:29:51 AM PDT

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      •  "Nefarious" ????? (0+ / 0-)

        Really?

        As with: wicked, evil, sinful, iniquitous, egregious, heinous, atrocious, vile, foul, abominable, odious, depraved, monstrous, fiendish, diabolical, unspeakable, despicable;
        villainous, criminal, corrupt, illegal, unlawful.

        Fans for Noles and Gators tend to go overboard. A lot of them are decidedly not alums, so being fans is a social proxy for a college diploma, or at least attending a U.

        But "nefarious" ??? Wowee.

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        The Seminole tribe of Florida has officially given permission for the name to be used.  Tribe officials also participate in the homecoming ceremonies each year.

        According to Wikipedia:

        Since 1978 the teams have been represented by the symbols Osceola and Renegade. The symbol represents an actual historical figure, Seminole war leader Osceola, whose clothing represents appropriate period dress. ...

        The use of names and images associated with Seminole history is officially sanctioned by the Seminole Tribe of Florida,[2] despite the Native American mascot controversy.

        From All About:
        Tribal Support
        The Seminole Tribe has been heavily involved in the Osceola tradition. That support has played a big role in the tradition's survival.

        The Tribe has offered its blessing to the University’s use of their lore, and according to Florida State, Seminole women even designed the Chief’s costume.

        I would guess that each individual logo and mascot should be viewed separately. If FSU's use of Chief Osceola mascot and the Seminole name becomes offensive to the Seminole tribe, I would hope that FSu would change it.  

        "I don't want to run the empire, I want to bring it down!" ~ Dr. Cornel West "It was a really naked declaration of imperialism." ~ Jeremy Scahill on Obama's speech to the UN

        by gulfgal98 on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 07:48:48 AM PDT

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