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  •  After much thought along these lines (22+ / 0-) seems to me that the Republicans have arrived at a place where they want Nation-States -- and not a "United" States.

    They do not want a Union at all; they deplore the commitment and responsibility that a Union requires. They certainly do not see a cohesive society, where investments are made in human capital.

    But, wasn't this where the Civil War (never) ended?

    Anyone know why USians cannot get closure from the events of the 1860s?

    I, for one, think they should have their nation states.

    •  I believe (4+ / 0-)

      they just want whats good for big money, whether big banks or corporations - the bottom line. They want nothing run by the government, whether it's defense, schools, SS, Medicare and especially healthcare, when it can be outsourced to their cronies. No government workers needed.
      They would be all for taxes and increases if it meant more money channeled to their handlers.

      Their only problem in achieving this is those pesky elections...

      "If fighting for a more equal and equitable distribution of the wealth of this country is socialistic, I stand guilty of being a socialist." Walter Reuther

      by fugwb on Fri Oct 11, 2013 at 10:53:26 AM PDT

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    •  Meh. (3+ / 0-)
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      I think we should give them Texas. Or Georgia, or South Carolina. There's enough territory and infrastructure in each of those states to hold the ~15% of the U.S. population who really want to live in a caste system authoritarian theocracy. The process of setting that up would get the people shifted around so the new nation-state doesn't have anyone to enslave but each other. Withdraw all our federal assets and bureaucracy, including military and Guard. Take back all our bombs, tanks, guns and aircraft. Then wish them good luck and turn 'em loose.

      We'd all be better off.

      •  I agree, but let's give them Mississippi (2+ / 0-)
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        “To the world you may be just one person, but to one person you may be the world.”-Brandi Snyder (in memory of my Nick)

        by YellowDogInGA on Fri Oct 11, 2013 at 01:15:27 PM PDT

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        •  Heh. Mississippi isn't so bad (1+ / 0-)
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          (and fun to type). It and Alabama are victims of the very mindset we'd be concentrating and isolating if we gave 'em some functional territory. Infrastructure counts. Those least-of-states (on so many levels) have been vastly short-changed on that score since there was modern infrastructure to work with. Both have ample shipping hubs sea and land based, but not a whole lot else. They'd be better off joining the Union when the hard-cores move to wherever the new CSA is to be... §;o)

          •  I don't know why the US has to be so big. (1+ / 0-)
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            A friendly separation and free trade would create an economic boom and many other competitive benefits. It could be like the EU nation states.

            People would be so much happier to live among like minded folks who share the same cultural values.

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            by Pluto on Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 03:52:39 PM PDT

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