Skip to main content

View Diary: The conservative hatred of democracy (213 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Maybe, maybe not. (0+ / 0-)

    1. Local business interests, perhaps, but "yours"?  When politicians are for sale to the highest bidder, the only person happy is the highest bidder.  Are you the wealthiest person in town?  If not, then you're screwed because he will use the purchased political power to harm competitors and steal from customers.
    2. Local?  What makes you think so?  Out of state railroad and mining and coal robber barons bought legislatures (not just single legislators, but a controlling interest) in the late 1900s.  Have you read any history or are you making this up as you go along?
    3. Your point of view that bribery is a proper way to influence politics is very short-sighted and destructive to democracy.  Are you a democrat or a plutocrat?  Your profile makes me think you're not a troll, but your reply indicates... a lack of respect for an honest political process.

    •  I know many assemblymen and senators, personally, (0+ / 0-)

      because I am politically active.  Democracy, not being a spectator sport, is influenced when I act, locally and on a statewide level.  I'd rather have my Legislature pick my senator, over a largely uninformed electorate that can be influenced by a slick ad campaign.   At least they would have to answer, locally.   At large Senators elected popularly, i.e. Ted Cruz, do not.  

      I not only respect the process, I understand it.  Peace.

      A man who just realized that I am as dispensable as the rest of you. Party time.

      by SpamNunn on Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 09:24:14 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  That works when there are honest legislators and (0+ / 0-)

        honest business people involved.  You may have your locale's best interests at heart, not just your own.  What about states like Wisconsin, where the Tea Baggers have a lock on the state but not the Senators?  The reason why the choice of Senators was taken from legislatures and put out for popular vote was precisely because it became so blatantly corrupt and dishonest.  History matters.

        The other problem, as I see it, is that you are distrusting and even denigrating democracy itself.  Quite often, large groups of people can make good decisions.  Maybe not the best in your eyes personally, but the best for them.  I happen not to agree with everything my elected representatives do (who does?) but I trust the process of democracy.

        •  It's too easy to fool enough of the people enough (0+ / 0-)

          of the time to eff things up.  "Best for them", personally, is not always what's best for the Nation.  

          I used to trust the process a lot more.   Then I realized how much I was being lied to.

          A man who just realized that I am as dispensable as the rest of you. Party time.

          by SpamNunn on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 06:49:33 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site