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  •  15 month DL is what the Democrats want. It (6+ / 0-)

    effectively takes the issue of the debt ceiling off the table for the remainder of this Congress.  It is unconditional surrender.

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    by khyber900 on Fri Oct 11, 2013 at 12:44:13 PM PDT

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    •  It's not surrender (1+ / 0-)
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      as long as the government is shutdown.  The GOP could extend the debt limit (since nobody really has the balls to default), while keeping the pressure on by not reopening the government.

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