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  •  Obama appears willing to reward Republicans (0+ / 0-)

    for holding the country hostage, and I find that to be really, really appalling. According to the New York Times, he's willing to compromise on the medical device tax and to commit to budget negotiations that will involve how to further gut social programs, all in exchange for short-term extension of the debt limit and short-term financing of the government. Given Obama's apparent willingness to once again cave to the Republicans, we're going to be right back here in a few months unless Obama holds firm.

    •  Can we wait until something actually happens... (0+ / 0-)

      before we all freak out about "caving"?

      Please understand I'm not singling you out. I keep reading diaries and comments about "step on their necks" and not giving an inch and I'm willing to bet my house that if you look at a Conservative web site you'd see the exact same sentiments just directed at our side.

      Aren't we supposed to be the intelligent party? The analogy of not negotiating with terrorists neglects one salient fact: when this is over, we can't just never see any of these politicians again or bomb their country or imprison them. The federal government is going to have to function and political parties are going to have to get things done.

      I guarantee you that Obama is going to "concede" something because that's how politics works. The Republicans are desperate to find something, anything to hang on to that might get their truck back on the road and no matter what happens, they're going to come out of this declaring that they won.

      But we don't have to believe the spin, either.

    •  With the damage already (0+ / 0-)

      Caused to the Republican brand, do you really believe the clowns in the House will be allowed to pull this stunt again when it's even closer to the 2014 elections?

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