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  •  It's entirely accurate (6+ / 0-)

    Right up until nearly the eve of secession, most Southern politicians were still not supportive of it and were trying to stop it. They didn't want to leave America. They just wanted to change it in their vision. Unfortunately, the tactics the minority used could only lead to secession because Southern politicians as a whole were unwilling to compromise on the issue of spreading slavery. Most Southern politicians honestly thought the Northerners would blink to avoid secession, though. Except the extremists, who were quite sure the Northerners would not blink.

    Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

    by moviemeister76 on Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 08:25:54 AM PDT

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    •  Even after secession started, some states didn't (5+ / 0-)

      support it. Virginia vetoed it at least once, maybe twice - until they were forced to "fish or cut bait" by the fall of Ft. Sumter and the resulting call for Federal troops.

      The Confederacy would never have succeeded at all without Virginia - and even with it, it was a short-term gain and long-term losses.

      If it's
      Not your body,
      Then it's
      Not your choice
      And it's
      None of your damn business!

      by TheOtherMaven on Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 10:34:26 AM PDT

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      •  Exactly right (4+ / 0-)

        The secession was a sort of staggered chain of events. It took months before for all the states that eventually did secede to do so. In the end, not all the Southern states seceded, and several states (Virginia being the most obvious when it became two states) had their own individual Civil Wars.

        Time is of no account with great thoughts, which are as fresh to-day as when they first passed through their authors' minds ages ago. - Samuel Smiles

        by moviemeister76 on Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 10:41:12 AM PDT

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