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  •  then present a realistic alternative (1+ / 0-)
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    it's easy for you and those that agree with you to sit here all full of self righteous anger. How about actually suggesting a course of actions?

    Der Weg ist das Ziel

    by duhban on Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 08:14:44 PM PDT

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    •  Do you know why they fight us? (6+ / 0-)

      For the same reason we fight them: Fear.

      How is continuing hostilities going to defuse the situation?

      * "Power attracts the corruptible. Suspect all who seek it." - Frank Herbert * (-9.75; -9.23)

      by Selphinea on Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 08:34:32 PM PDT

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      •  sorry wrong (0+ / 0-)

        We fight the terrorists because the alternative is that they will keep coming till they either 'win' or we kill them all.

        I'd love to live in a utopia where we all sing kumbaya together but we do not. We sadly probably will not in my lifetime. There is over thirty years of proof showing that ignoring terrorist groups is about one of the dumbest things you can do.

        I'd love for the actual security forces of both Pakistan and Afganistan to do their job so we didn't have to. That has about as much chance currently of happening as me being elected president.

        What we are doing right now is the best choice we have out of a whole lot of crappy ones. And personally I'm sick of people bitching about it without presenting an actual viable alternative.

        Der Weg ist das Ziel

        by duhban on Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 08:45:46 PM PDT

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      •  It's not. Nor is it the goal (2+ / 0-)
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        Terri, Lawrence

        These strikes are supposed to blunt their capabilities, even if only temporarily.  There appears to be no real solution at this point, and so the course of action seems to be a sort of holding action to buy time without (or with fewer) terrorist attacks.

        The problem is that even if the US stops the strikes, these groups can always brainwash more people to do their bidding.

        Furthermore, the politics demands that The President be seen as actually doing something about it, even if the course of action is not optimal in the long run.  If he doesn't, it strengthens the hand of the conservatives, and we know how much worse they will likely make things.

      •  Lol! (1+ / 0-)
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        This type of hopelessly naive belief is really mind-boggling to anyone who knows more than just superficial, glossy western-centric theories about the Af-Pak region.

        Like it or not, there is a brand of supremacist Sunni extremism out there that has little to do with our presence there and is present in all kinds of regions in the world.

        Maybe you haven't noticed, but these people aren't just attacking and killing Americans, but are also:

        killing and blowing up Shia in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Syria.

        killing and blowing up Sufis, Animists, and Christians in Northern Africa.

        killing and blowing up Buddhists in Thailand.

        killing and blowing up ethnic and religious minorities in Indonesia, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.

        killing and blowing up Christians and Animists in the Philippines.

        killing and blowing up Hindus, Sikhs, and Buddhists in India.

        And they love killing atheists, too.  Everywhere.

        I suggest you try and open a girl's school in the region of Afghanistan that borders Pakistan and then wait and see just how much the Sunni extremists like the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and the Haqqani Network respect the naivité that you are displaying here.


        "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - Mohammed Nabbous, R.I.P.

        by Lawrence on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 03:50:30 AM PDT

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