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  •  Supposedly, McConnell was waiting to see (4+ / 0-)
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    what Boehner was going to do.

    Well, now that we know, Senate really needs to move.

    I expect we see a truly clean CR and DC hike.

    •  Reid knows the time necessary more than I (2+ / 0-)
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      but I don't think they have much more time to dick around waiting for Boehner.  House is done for the night - time for Reid and McConnell to get their agreement out and to the Senate floor.  

      Glenn Greenwald promotes far-right fringe extremist group The Oath Keepers - https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statuses/377787818619064320

      by Jacoby Jonze on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 03:30:17 PM PDT

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      •  I think the issue now is getting unanimous consent (0+ / 0-)

        If Cruz wants to delay, he can do that, whether the vote is right now or tomorrow.

        •  I bet Reid and McConnell together... (1+ / 0-)
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          can get around this.  And if they can't and Cruz does filibuster, imagine the visual of a Republican Senator blocking a vote while Moody's and S&P slash the American credit rating, the stock market crashes, the dollar crashes...

          Glenn Greenwald promotes far-right fringe extremist group The Oath Keepers - https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statuses/377787818619064320

          by Jacoby Jonze on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 05:25:02 PM PDT

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          •  Then maybe not... (1+ / 0-)
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            Graham is emploring Cruz not to further gum things up, and Thune is saying that they perceptively could as is their right as individual senators.  

            The story from the Senate GOP is that they threw it back to Boehner because if the bill came from the House there was less tricks and delays that Cruz could use.  

            It seems like the GOP believes the debt ceiling breach won't happen as long as they have a vote in the process of happening, because the shutdown might have given the government certain savings.  

            BUT Cruz will be delaying a floor vote for two days, which means two extra days of a shutdown that is completely unnecessary.  I don't know if the GOP Senate wants those optics  - causing two more days of pain for grandstanding.  So maybe there could be a filibuster reform or something passed that could speed up this process.  

            Glenn Greenwald promotes far-right fringe extremist group The Oath Keepers - https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statuses/377787818619064320

            by Jacoby Jonze on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 05:46:31 PM PDT

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    •  It'll have income verification (2+ / 0-)
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      Already in the law, but Administration waived it, but now they're OK with having it there as a fig leaf.  This is really a nothingburger.

      It's amazing the House had to go through this one last humiliation as a sop to the wingnuts.

      This will really matter in midterms if it keeps happening which seems likely.  We'll pick up seats and maybe the House, depending on how often it happens, for what duration(s), how close to the election, and how many humiliations the GOP self-inflicts through each scenario.

      But the budget conference coming up, and the dealmaking afterward, will be the real war.  I suspect maybe some of what the Senate Dems do is to surrender some Obamacare stuff they don't care about much in exchange for sequestration relief.  They're not going to agree to entitlement cuts without more taxes, and the GOP won't do more taxes.  So the only other avenue for sequestration relief or repeal is some Obamacare stuff, and who knows what other laws on entirely other subjects contain provisions that some Dems consider expendable.

      But any sequestration relief will be a real war.  I won't be surprised if Dems back down.  I've long said we'd surrender the sequestration fight as Boehner's winnings for the year.  I think that's still likely, even though I hope I'm wrong.  There's a lot of electoral risk for us, especially red state Senators, to push for "more spending" which is what sequestration relief is.

      45, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

      by DCCyclone on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 06:16:36 PM PDT

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