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  •  He'd be the worst candidate. (4+ / 0-)

    The general electorate will peg him as a member of the coastal liberal elite, and his economic policies will only reinforce that opinion. I'd rather have Mark Warner. Not even a contest.

    http://www.snappac.org/ Students for a New American Politics!

    by redrelic17 on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 10:26:06 PM PDT

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    •  As I said, it depends. (1+ / 0-)
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      Let's see what happens with his tax reform commission and its recommendations, for instance.

      I'd probably prefer Warner, too, although that's because I think he'd just be a better candidate. A lot better, in fact, and that's beyond him almost certainly locking down Virginia.

      You're a Constitutional conservative. I'm a Constitutional conservative. Who isn't a Constitutional conservative? We are all proud Constitutional conservatives. Ted Cruz in 2016!

      by bjssp on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 10:31:06 PM PDT

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      •  It doesn't depend on policy esoterica. (1+ / 1-)
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        Setsuna Mudo

        As if that would make or break Cuomo.

        You are my least favorite person to spar with on this board.

        http://www.snappac.org/ Students for a New American Politics!

        by redrelic17 on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 10:43:40 PM PDT

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        •  I'm glad I could stand out in some way, lol. (1+ / 0-)
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          Why don't you like to spar with me?

          My point in bringing up policy is that this is a big source of criticism against him. Not all of it, of course, and definitely not on this board. That would be stuff like the maps. But there's something there. I don't think he's no different than a Republican, but he's definitely not a flaming liberal. Whatever, neither is Clinton. The thing about Cuomo is that he's still got a lot of time left and, if he wanted to do so, he could go in a more liberal direction on policy.

          If he were to make the NYS tax system much more progressive, if he were to implement more aggressive pollution taxes or controls, if he were to implement a statewide minimum income, or something along those lines, he'd stand out. It make his earlier centrist positions a lot easier to get over in a primary, I think.

          Does all of this mean he can continue to act like he does with other Democrats? No, probably not. But if that changes, who knows? In the situation I described above, I think a more moderate Democrat would be favored.

          You're a Constitutional conservative. I'm a Constitutional conservative. Who isn't a Constitutional conservative? We are all proud Constitutional conservatives. Ted Cruz in 2016!

          by bjssp on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 11:01:03 PM PDT

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        •  Wow... (2+ / 0-)
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          This was a low comment, even for you. I thought, at the very least, that I would be your least favorite person to spar with on this board. I am so offended I didn't earn this title...

          *snark to the absolute f*ing max

          23 Burkean Post Modern Gay Democrat; NM-2 (Raised), TX-20 (B.A. & M.A. in Political Science), TX-17 (Home); 08/12 PVIs

          by wwmiv on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 11:58:03 PM PDT

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    •  Warner = good Dem though a centrist (9+ / 0-)

      Cuomo = bad Dem and a centrist.

      ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

      by James Allen on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 10:41:05 PM PDT

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      •  It's even more than that. (7+ / 0-)

        Voters will think Cuomo is some huge liberal, but won't identify Warner that way. Warner might even be to Cuomo's left in reality.

        http://www.snappac.org/ Students for a New American Politics!

        by redrelic17 on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 10:45:19 PM PDT

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        •  This to the maxxx (5+ / 0-)

          Gov. Cuomo is running harder to the "center" than he needs to, on paper, because it's just so easy for a politician from an iconic, politically monolithic state like New York to be stereotyped, in today's age of uber-polarized political and regional factions, as a "Noo Yawk City librul!1" on the national stage. It's the same reason why no one from San Francisco or Alabama is going to be elected to the White House anytime soon.

          Cuomo thinks he can circumvent that "bad rap" by governing from what is New York's center-right, but really, the likely end result is that his name is mud with both progressive activists and many Democratic mandarins irritated at his efforts to sabotage the state party, and he still winds up having little crossover appeal to swing voters in "Middle America" who see him as a typical left-wing East Coast city slicker.

          Pragmatic progressive. Oregonian, Cascadian, and American. Keeper of the DKE glossary.

          by SaoMagnifico on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 11:26:43 PM PDT

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      •  Warner is what a red state Dem should be like (2+ / 0-)
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        Though he's still pretty good in swing state Virgina.

        Leftist Mormon in Utah, Born in Washington State, live in UT-04 (Matheson).

        by Gygaxian on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 11:36:16 PM PDT

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