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  •  She should, he's a great pick (1+ / 0-)
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    Executive experience leading the 10th largest city in America.  Serious Hispanic outreach. Growing economy, San. Antonio has been diversifying like crazy over last few years. City is much cleaner than it was 10 years ago. And all this without gentrification. Plus, electorally, he may do just enough to force the GOP to start spending in Texas, cause Texasdems are going to go apeshit canvassing in their own neighborhoods, especially if 2014 is used as a dry run to get the van clean and up to speed.

    Castro's a great pick on balance, personality, experience, youth, and electoral politics.

    How many states is San Antonio larger than? It's bigger than deleware. Think about that for a moment.

    SSP alumni, 28, Male, Democrat, TX-14 Elections Blogger for Burnt Orange Report. Collection of Texas elections diaries can be found here

    by trowaman on Wed Oct 16, 2013 at 12:26:44 PM PDT

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    •  Not experienced to be a heartbeat away... (0+ / 0-)

      from Presidency.  With Hillary's age and past health scares it will be a campaign issue and she'd need a running mate accepted as being ready on day one.  Warner, Beshear, O'Malley, Patrick all make much more sense.

      Glenn Greenwald promotes far-right fringe extremist group The Oath Keepers - https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statuses/377787818619064320

      by Jacoby Jonze on Wed Oct 16, 2013 at 12:30:23 PM PDT

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      •  What is God's name (1+ / 0-)
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        Make O'Malley or Patrick qualified.  Being a governor is just like being President, except that it isn't.  Both have governed with super majroities at times, how is that like the Presidency?  Also, do either have any FP experiences?

        The whole heartbeat away thing is silly.  The only thing that can prepare one for being Prez is being VP.  Even being governor of California isn't all that great a comparison.  President is leader of the free world, there's just isn't an introductory course to that.  Vice president is engaged in a lot of things the POTUS is, but even then not all of them.  But it's the closest thing we've got to POTUS 101.

        Warner is probably more qualified than the rest, but still I don't think it's any comparison.

        If you want someone qualified to be POTUS, you pretty much have your choice of Joe Biden or Al Gore.  No one else is even close to being as "qualified" as they.  

        "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

        by rdw72777 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 at 12:55:41 PM PDT

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        •  Maybe to you. (0+ / 0-)

          Being a two term governor makes you more qualified than a big city mayor.  O'Malley is on some FP think tank appointed by Pres Obama.  Patrick served in the Clinton Administration DOJ and now served two terms in Massachusetts.  

          Governors are elected President, how many mayors have been?

          Glenn Greenwald promotes far-right fringe extremist group The Oath Keepers - https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statuses/377787818619064320

          by Jacoby Jonze on Wed Oct 16, 2013 at 01:21:57 PM PDT

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          •  That last line is terrible logic (1+ / 0-)
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            How many people from Maryland have been elected president?  0, then O'Malley can't possibly win and shouldn't even run.

            Obama/Hillary/Biden/Dodd/Edwards/etc shouldn't even have run in 2008 since a Governor (Bill Richardson) was in the race, and we all know we only elect governors.

            Also, we're talking VP, not POTUS.

            "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

            by rdw72777 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 at 01:39:18 PM PDT

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        •  Wow (2+ / 0-)
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          The only thing that can prepare one for being Prez is being VP.
          This is bizarre. VPs sometimes have close relationships with presidents, most often not, but it's not a post in the chain of command and at best is a glorified adviser. Governors have actual responsibilities and have to make important decisions, negotiate interest groups, etc. That's pretty good preparation.

          Granted, governors tend to lack foreign policy experience. But plenty of governors did just fine with that aspect of the job, picked it up nicely. OTOH, Lyndon Johnson, as both an ex-senator and former VP, was a terrible foreign policy hand.

          •  I just don't see (0+ / 0-)

            POTUS as a larger version of being governor, and Ia ccept that some people do.  I just don't thinkt hey'r eall that comparable, unless of course you're being forced to find something like it.

            I just don't think most governors have to worry about their decisions getting people killed, providing national/global security, dealing with such vast viewpoints...and I view every day as POTUS carrying those burdens.  I can't imagine it.

            In particular, most of the governors people think are qualified (Patrick, O'Malley, Hickenlooper) haven't had to deal with the types of horse trading that a President would...not even close.  To say that they've had to compromise much is pretty untrue, since they're all dealing with legislatures run by thir own pary.

            That being said, I've dragged us far afield from Julian Castro as VP :-)

            "What if you're on a game show one day and the name of some random New Jersey state senator is the only thing between you and several thousand dollars? And you'll think to yourself, "if only I had clapped faster." - sapelcovits

            by rdw72777 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 at 02:00:16 PM PDT

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            •  Yeah, but VPs don't have to deal (0+ / 0-)

              with any of that stuff either. The office has absolutely zero responsibilities. Sure, they can sometimes participate in the process, and observe it, but at the end of the day they're usually not going to have much of an advantage over someone who just reads Bob Woodward's book six months later.

              Governors do have to make big choices about public safety and such, but I agree, it's not much of a preparation to be president. Arguably nothing is at this point except being president. Though FDR, Reagan, and Clinton all seemed to get along okay with those issues despite no experience with them prior to assuming office (Carter I see as a mixed bag on foreign policy, Dubya sucked but he pretty much sucked at everything too).

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