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  •  Forget about using tonight's vote in attacks (4+ / 0-)
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    LordMike, James Allen, gabjoh, itskevin

    I see people pointing to who voted "yes" and who voted "no" for the implicit, or not so implicit, idea that "no" voters are politically vulnerable for this.

    Forget it.

    So many people have voted "no" in the past on the debt ceiling, including plenty who voted "yes" tonight, that it's not going to help.

    And voting "no" on ending the shutdown tonight, while more potent, isn't going to be a game-changer without more brinkmanship going forward.  The actual votes tonight don't matter much, what helps us is simply that the shutdown happened, and it was entirely the GOP to blame.  Jim Leach was one of two Republicans to vote against the Iraq War in 2002 and never did support it later (though of course like everyone else on both sides he voted for funding for it).  And after all that, he lost in 2006...because of the Iraq War.  The issue is what matters, particular votes not so much.

    45, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

    by DCCyclone on Wed Oct 16, 2013 at 08:03:45 PM PDT

    •  It may still be more pertinent in GOP primaries (2+ / 0-)
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      BeloitDem, jncca

      Where some of those Yes votes could cause some heartburn, but we'll have to see

      "I would rather the man who presents something for my consideration subject me to a zephyr of truth and a gentle breeze of responsibility rather than blow me down with a curtain of hot wind." - Grover Cleveland.

      by lordpet8 on Wed Oct 16, 2013 at 10:40:37 PM PDT

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