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  •  Oh, i just read an article (14+ / 0-)

    stating about 110,000 have enrolled so far and based on estimates, we're not going to make the goal and now I can't find the story. Since the Democrat's bent over backwards to help with the rollout of Medicare part D in spite of being against it, I think we should make a demand for Republican's to stop obstructing Obamacare on the state level.

    Shut down due to Republican intransigence.

    by blueoregon on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 10:53:49 AM PDT

    •  Is that total or just at healthcare.gov? Because a (20+ / 0-)

      lot states do have their own sites, and most of what I hear from them is good.



      Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

      by Wee Mama on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 11:09:28 AM PDT

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    •  Here are actual stats for CA from CoveredCA (11+ / 0-)

      For the week ending 10/8/13:

      987,440 unique visits to website
      59,000 calls to help lines
      43,616 applications have been started
      27,305 applications have been partially completed
      16,313 applications completed with household eligibility determined
      28,699 number of Californians determined eligible for coverage
      CoveredCA news

    •  A Problem: Rolled Out Plans are Crap. (2+ / 0-)
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      Involuntary Exile, annecros

      No Value/High Cost

      Bending the “cost curve” in this way appears to also bend “the care curve”
      As you can see from my results, the most under-represented specialties (on the left) are the ones that typically provide services to truly sick patients, such as oncology, cardiology, internal medicine, neurology. And no doctor specialty has more than about 75% representation on the Exchange provider networks. Hospitals are also included on the right of the graph. Their numbers are diminished in the Premera Exchange plan network via excluding specialty hospitals that are crucial to good care in this region, such as Children’s Hospital and the Seattle Cancer Care Alliance.

      Quasi-Medicaid
      What we’re seeing has been described as a quasi-Medicaid level of doctor access. I would have little problem with plans that “streamline care”. But using Premera as a case in point along with reading about left-out doctors and hospitals all over the nation, I see a pattern of drastically reducing access to care for the sickest patients. This is a method for insurers to subvert the mandated yearly patient out of pocket maximums, (as well as the loss of insurers’ ability to cap lifetime maximum payouts) by making access to expensive care difficult or impractical, especially for the poorest and sickest patients. And by limiting tax subsidies to Exchange plans only, I believe the Democrats wrote their law deliberately to let insurers do this.

      [Update] I see that Paul Krugman praises the Medicaid Model for its “willing[ness] to say no,” a trait that allows Medicaid to control costs better than any medical care institution in this country. I just want to say that I know all about that. When I was a teenager, my mother was hospitalized on Medicaid for acute clinical depression. She was discharged from the hospital during a time when her counselor was on vacation, and while she wasn’t ready. Apparently Medicaid had said no to more hospitalization. My mother committed suicide 3 days later. My personal experience is that when Medicaid says no, people die. Is this the level of care we want for the whole country?

      Action, Action, Action
      Come on, progressives! Is your party so important to you that you don’t care anymore about the principles that led you to join it? Don’t you think you need to fight this? Maybe you should do so for the sake of your party? I would love to spend 24-hours-a-day, 7 days a week in action on this myself. However, besides the fact that I feel powerless, I’m finding that the Exchange plans create in me an urgent need to leave self-employment and venture back into the world of employer provided health insurance. So those of you with a national audience, maybe those of you who have insurance yourself, how about stepping up!

      A bad rollout is just the tip of the 'berg.  Take a look at what they are trying to sell.
      •  Must depend on the plan and the state (4+ / 0-)

        Here most of the plans are Blue Cross, with statewide coverage, and just about every provider in the state takes Blue Cross. I gather that's not true in other places, however.

        The blame for that goes to state insurance commissioners, I believe, not to the design of the ACA.

        •  WA: I called Insurance Commissioner. (0+ / 0-)

          The WA plans discussed were approved without any concerns.  It is the ACA which left out care for long term serious illness as part of the ten basic elements.  There will be endless finger pointing with this scheme.
          With single payer, we would have saved 600 billion/year and not needed this rube contraption.
          If anyone has any specific discussion let's hear it.  Naked Capitalism has a good collection of comments.  I know I am not alone on the left opposing the O'care scam and supporting single payer.

      •  You've used a debate method (5+ / 0-)

        called Stacking the Deck. It's considered bad debate form. Rather than honestly appraise all sides of the argument, you've simply front loaded yours to malign your opponent.

        http://callatimeout.blogspot.com/ Jesus Loves You. Keep pointing out others. You're most likely the problem.

        by DAISHI on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 01:44:17 PM PDT

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      •  Aren't you tired yet (0+ / 0-)

        of posting all this same crap all over every ACA diary?  It's not even true.  Sheesh.

        "If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." - Will Rogers

        by Kentucky DeanDemocrat on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 06:28:35 PM PDT

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        •  Show us your Research. (0+ / 0-)

          The link I provided to NC shows you how to do your own research.  Take a look at your States plans and show us the results.  Number of providers before O 'Care and after.  Participating hospitals in plans.  In network providers vs out of network.  Specialty care.  
          I say you got less than before at higher cost.  If you had refuting evidence no doubt you would have shared lol.

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