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  •  The problem with debates about drone policy (3+ / 0-)
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    Rich in PA, Sky Net, lordcopper

    They always start in the middle, not at the beginning.

    1. Are there people in [Pakistan, Yemen, etc] who are a threat to US security?
    2. If so, should we do something about it?
    3. If so, what?

    Drones might be one of the "whats" we can do. Boots on the ground might be another, although with its own share of death and destruction, besides additional ramifications on relationships with the countr(ies) concerned. Other alternatives I've seen suggested aid money to "win hearts and minds". Of course, some will answer question 1 or 2 in the negative, and take the stand we should do nothing because there is no threat at all; making any debate about drones themselves moot.

    “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

    by Catte Nappe on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 03:34:29 PM PDT

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    •  We debate (0+ / 0-)

      the drones still fly.  

      My point is that to those innocents afflicted by our drones the question is not moot.  

      Do you watch the sky every day when you venture outside your door?  

      I may be missing the point you are making.  You seem to be on both sides of the issue.  If you even consider it an issue.

      "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." Rudyard Kipling

      by EdMass on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 03:47:44 PM PDT

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      •  My point, in part, is (2+ / 0-)
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        Sky Net, lordcopper

        There are more than two sides. So I am not on "both" sides, I'm probably on 4 or 5 or 6 sides.

        And no, like you probably, I don't look up at the sky to wonder if death will "reign" down on me. Nor do I worry about being held at gunpoint to be quizzed about my religious beliefs, nor worry about kids picking up land mines thinking they are toys, nor keep an eye out for IED's in the road, nor wonder if someone is going to blow themselves up in the middle of the supermarket.

        But, to begin at the beginning, where do you stand on question number 1? For myself, I do believe that there are people in those places who are actively planning (and doing where they can) things that will be harmful to the US and US citizens. Your thoughts?

        “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

        by Catte Nappe on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 05:23:31 PM PDT

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