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View Diary: Politico: The Deal Is Done. Uh-Oh (214 comments)

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  •  I really want there to be no compromise by the (10+ / 0-)

    Democrats over Republicans doing their job because there will be continued hostage taking due to this extra-ordinary process.  We should really force Republicans to own this wholly and the only thing I'd offer them is to promise to hold budget negotiations once the government is back in business without a default ceiling held over the country's head.

    The Democrats, by giving Republicans something, validate this tactic of shutdown before negotiation.

    •  We missed an historic opportunity (6+ / 0-)

      Never before have Democrats been in a more powerful bargaining position.  We could have put removing the debt limit forever on the table, and it would have almost assured a 2014 victory against a party that voted for their right to take America hostage! Instead, all we get is the chance to let Republicans do this all over again in a few months.

      The more I think about this, the angrier I'm getting.

      •  What do you see as the big cave? n/t (0+ / 0-)
        •  The chance to save our democracy from hostage (5+ / 0-)

          taking.  This fundamentally changes our democracy.  Everything the Democrats gain, and more, will now be up for repeal every time it's time to raise the debt ceiling.  No democracy in the world is run like this.

          At every debt ceiling "negotiation" we will have to give up a little more, until we finally have a real default, which is now 100% guaranteed to happen when a Democratic president finally stands up and says, they are killing our democracy.

          •  The counter-argument (2+ / 0-)
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            which has some appeal to me, is that this mission is accomplished.  They got a fig leaf, a palpable fig leaf.  They got a wake up call.  They will not do this in 2014.  Accept victory.  Oh, and the Dems got something the unions wanted.

            Now I personally think the next time out party has the governing trifecta again, we should pass a law eliminating the requirement for congressional authorization of debt ceiling hikes.  Maybe thanks to all this, that is not impossible

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