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  •  14th Amendment, and to hell with the lawyers (3+ / 0-)
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    I understand Obama taking it off the table to force negotiations, but if the Teapublicans insist on shooting their hostage (The United States of America), then he should do whatever it takes to save that hostage, including ignoring his lawyers and daring the Republicans to attack him for saving America and the world.  Otherwise he will be no better, and in fact worse, than the bureaucrats of the Bush White House who fiddled about rules while people died in New Orleans.  This is, in fact, service suppressing insurrection:

    "Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned."

    •  He SAYS it's off the table but if he was willing (0+ / 0-)

      then the pressure would be lessened...

      "The poor can never be made to suffer enough." Jimmy Breslin

      by merrywidow on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 06:52:50 AM PDT

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    •  Red States Hurt The Most (0+ / 0-)

      I think if we default on our obligations, if not technically our debt, it is the red states that will hurt the most.  Perhaps the dim voters down there will actually start to feel the pain and associate it with Republican obstruction.  Whether they will be able to make the cognitive association back to their own votes is another matter, but making them aware of the pain they avoid courtesy of those who pay more for them to get federal support is a good first step.

      •  Won't work. They're that fucking stupid. (0+ / 0-)

        Brainless fundamentalism does that to you.

        Bad shit in Blue States = "Gawd is punnishin Them fer homoseckshals 'n' aborshuns 'n' not jailin' their Ay-Rabs, because He Hates Them." Vote for their pinheaded teabag 'cause he'll stop it.

        Bad shit in Red States = "Gawd is testin Us, becuz He Luuvs Us." Vote for their pinheaded teabag as a proof of their faith.

        Thank God, the Bob Fosse Kid is here! - Colin Mochrie

        by gardnerhill on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 12:10:26 PM PDT

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