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  •  I agree but it does (2+ / 0-)
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    koseighty, gmats

    not change my hypothesis. What has been done to minorities especially black men in this country is criminal. That does not mean that we should give up on the idea of opportunity for all and the only way you will get that is with a robust middle class which rewards hard work and ingenuity.

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    by Jlukes on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 12:43:16 PM PDT

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    •  Hard work and ingenuity isn't enough (1+ / 0-)
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      We need to also not throw away people who can't work  hard for whatever reason and who are of average capabilities and resources.

      This country needs to work for more people.  Right now, it is mostly working for people who pick the correct parents, and  unless those parents are very well off, ceases to work well if you get sick, injured, etc.   Or god forbid have a kid without a stay-at-home caretaker.

      In my parents generation the "right parents" was a broader group (anybody white and not too obviously of one of the suspect ethnic groups) but pretty much excluded half of that population (women) unless they married a white man.

      •  absolutely, but you need to be rewarded (1+ / 0-)
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        if one works extra hard or figures out the better mousetrap. There has to be a floor though. That is why it is mandatory to have a strong safety net.

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        by Jlukes on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 01:20:49 PM PDT

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        •  There must also be a ceiling. That's where (1+ / 0-)
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          aggressively progressive taxation comes into play.  Once upon a time the people in this country fought against an aristocracy; now they're getting fat on our productivity gains.

          -7.38, -5.38 (that's a surprise)

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          by 84thProblem on Tue Oct 15, 2013 at 03:30:10 PM PDT

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          •  Sure. I'm down with progressive taxation (1+ / 0-)
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            and estate taxes and such.   I don't know the subject well enough to estimate how to draw the lines, but the basic idea is sound.   A good start would be to treat all forms of income equally.

            Fixing the floor helps more people, which tends to actually bring in more revenue via various forms of regressive taxes that are in place all over than simply trying to get more from the rich by itself.  

            •  Boggles my mind that someone that invests their (1+ / 0-)
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              life in earning a paycheck can pay over 30%, but someone that only invests money pays a measly 15% (maybe).

              -7.38, -5.38 (that's a surprise)

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              by 84thProblem on Thu Oct 17, 2013 at 07:37:37 PM PDT

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