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  •  At first I was going to respond with snark (3+ / 0-)
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    but then I looked past the bombastic words and saw the main message.

    Which is that some topics are supposedly "off-limits" here, particularly when it comes to satire.

    In early September, there was a diary entitled "8 year old Bride dies on her wedding night" which detailed a report of an arranged of a girl in Yemen.  Lo and behold, this statement was part of the report:  Bold is my emphasis.

    "Indeed, the practice has deep cultural and religious roots, and is widespread in Yemen. A February 2009 law set the minimum age for marriage at 17, but it was repealed after some conservative lawmakers called it un-Islamic."
    Of course right on cue, out came the parade of people making comments that "ohh, this isn't real Islam, etc. etc."  Normally I hold my tongue on things like this, but a rape and murder of an 8 year old girl?  Fuck that.  Here's what I wrote.  Motherfucking Real Talk:
    When I read news reports like this... remind me why, as a progressive, I'm supposed to treat all religions equally?  Why is that automatic?  Why do we constantly hear that line peddled around here at Daily Kos?

    Me personally as an atheist, I think all religion is unnecessary.  But I have to say, I find the practices of meditation and other benign Buddhist rituals much, much more tolerable than all of these reports of what amounts to child rape - which, btw, seem to always be carried out by those who are just following "Islamic law".

    I'm pretty much sick and tired of having to read that "oh, this isn't the normal practice, blah blah blah".  Trust me, I'm the first one to call out Christian fanaticism and crimes (like all of the stupid anti-vaccine asshole parents that cause their children to die because they refuse to vaccinate them).  

    But why do things like stories like this always come from Yemen, and Saudi Arabia, etc. etc.?  Seems there's one thing in common there.  People may attribute this to a lack of women's rights (and perhaps children's rights as well), and I would agree.  But those laws have a foundation, and that foundation is Islamic Law.

    This viewpoint may be problematic for many here, but I have a feeling that a lot more agree with it than you would think.  They're just afraid of being cast off as some intolerant progressive...

    If "Dollar-u-akhbar" offends people here, then I guess we should ban any video clips from Bill Maher or Louis C.K. from ever making the pages of Daily Kos again.  Because otherwise, you're just a fucking hypocrite.

    "Give me a lever long enough... and I shall move the world." - Archimedes

    by mconvente on Thu Oct 17, 2013 at 05:38:58 AM PDT

    •  Couldn't agree more. (2+ / 0-)
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      And I would add Bill Burr to the list of comedians who are persona non grata here, which would also include George Carlin, among many, many others.

      Always apart, always asking Why.

      by Troubadour on Thu Oct 17, 2013 at 06:03:27 AM PDT

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      •  Bill Burr def says some shocking things, but (2+ / 0-)
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        I'm the type that thinks literally anything can be joked about. Truly anything. People are way too uptight as it is. I love when Louie CK makes fun of people like me who complain when the airplane internet is broken. :)

        Daniel Tosh of Tosh.0 fame is another one who says some downright crazy stuff, but it's actually quite funny.

        As my brother can attest, I'm in an odd group of people who gets angry at things but offended by almost nothing.

        •  I wonder how long it would take George Carlin (3+ / 0-)
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          to get banned if he were alive and invited to post here.  

          Always apart, always asking Why.

          by Troubadour on Thu Oct 17, 2013 at 09:30:23 AM PDT

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          •  It would be a tight race between Carlin (3+ / 0-)
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            and Jonathan Swift.

            Neither would last a week here.

            When you triangulate everything, you can't even roll downhill...

            by PhilJD on Thu Oct 17, 2013 at 10:03:14 AM PDT

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            •  Mark Twain would beat them both. (1+ / 0-)
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              And Orwell?  He'd be banned so fast it would break the internet.

              Always apart, always asking Why.

              by Troubadour on Thu Oct 17, 2013 at 10:20:00 AM PDT

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            •  I don't think so. (1+ / 0-)
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              They'd probably post funny things and get peoples' attention and be misinterpreted, but kicked off the place?  Nah.

              Occasionally I say things like 'I think of religions as widely-accepted conspiracy theories' and generally don't get hate or such for them.

              Comedians do more than just use foul language or make sweeping declarations.  They point out things that are funny.

              For instance, George Carlin once pointed out that he thinks it's funny that alien enthusiasts (UFO fanatics) are treated like they're lunatics by the mainstream media.  But in the same programs, the people who believe that someone who performed various magic tricks for an audience a long, long time ago represented an all-powerful force that controls the entire universe is treated as being a reasonable, normal person.

              I think that's funny too.  It's just one of the things that's funny about our society.

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