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  •  I didn't vote in your poll, and here's why - (5+ / 0-)

    I would intervene and have done so, but it involved a threat of violence and would have been followed up by violence if the perpetrator hadn't backed down. I don't involve myself with the police in anything. Rape is violence, and while nonviolence can and does work in some situations as a tactic, sometimes the proper response to violence is violence.

    I raised three daughters, and I can assure you that they didn't hear this BS from me while they were growing up. I understand that you're angry and ranting, but realize that there are many of us with penises who are just as disgusted as you are with these pervasive attitudes.

    •  Which is why I didn't use the word MAN (1+ / 0-)
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      to describe a rapist.

      I do differentiate. Maybe it's a small one, but it's all I have at the moment.

      And the point of the poll and the rant was to get people to think about what they are saying, and what they are perpetuating.

      Maybe you don't do any of that crap, good on you and I really mean that. However there are others who have yet to make some connections. I still hold on to hope that some of those folks can be reached. Male or female.

      And also note that the pole didn't begin on the premise that the rescuer was of a specific gender.

      Females need to stick together too and stop throwing each other to the wolves.

      Gentlemen, congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training (Zed, MIB).

      by GreenMother on Thu Oct 17, 2013 at 10:28:33 AM PDT

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      •  Pole--!! Ahha I meant Poll! (0+ / 0-)

        Sheesh

        Gentlemen, congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training (Zed, MIB).

        by GreenMother on Thu Oct 17, 2013 at 10:29:08 AM PDT

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      •  I did catch that (0+ / 0-)

        but then I got to the last paragraph of the diary, where the broad brush obliterates the distinction. I would have tipped but for that. It's otherwise a good rant.

        •  Take a look at the legislation that women are (0+ / 0-)

          dealing with, with regards to those topics--nothing broad about it. That is how it is right now.

          You might be the exception, but sadly you must not be the rule, otherwise we--females wouldn't still be dealing with these bullshit attitudes from the public, the press and the legislature.

          Gentlemen, congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training (Zed, MIB).

          by GreenMother on Thu Oct 17, 2013 at 11:49:57 AM PDT

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        •  Let me put it to you this way johnel (0+ / 0-)

          This isn't about you personally. And that is doubly true if this does not describe your behavior.

          This is a little bit about me and my experiences, being refreshed by reading the same kind of effed up attitudes being perpetuated in our culture with regards to the topic of women's social freedoms, rape, and consent.

          You don't have to agree with anything I said here, or like it. It's for me to get off my chest so the anger doesn't eat me up at this point.

          If something I say furthers the conversation, or gets someone out there to re-examine their attitudes towards this, then it's an added bonus.

          Gentlemen, congratulations. You're everything we've come to expect from years of government training (Zed, MIB).

          by GreenMother on Thu Oct 17, 2013 at 02:30:22 PM PDT

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