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  •  Here's a (8+ / 0-)

    link. The anti-war demonstrations were one of the reasons that Nixon decided to scrap the operation.

    •  That Nixon would consider nukes (1+ / 0-)
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      does not surprise. It appears that the predecessors all considered them in an "evaluating options" manner and reached the sane conclusion.

      It seems as though public outcry was only a minor consideration.

      I'm on a mission! Testing the new site rules.

      by blue aardvark on Fri Oct 18, 2013 at 08:05:19 AM PDT

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    •  Of course, back then (8+ / 0-)

      they didn't limit protest locations, either. Anymore, Americans who dissent are hidden from the leaders.

      We weren't hidden from Nixon or LBJ. Here's some interesting reading:

      The president and his principal spokesmen were finding it harder each week to avoid the chanting protesters, who seemed to be everywhere. For the first time in history, a president was unwelcome in public in most parts of the country, making him a veritable prisoner in the White House, "hunkered down" there, to use one of his favorite expressions. At the end of 1967 he traveled to Australia, Thailand, Vietnam, and Pakistan in four and a half days, returning to the White House on Christmas Eve after stopping off for a surprise meeting with the pope in the Vatican. Johnson was once again attempting to placate the doves.

      Same as it ever was, except for the Peoples ability to redress grievances being a bit more, shall we say, 'challenging'?

      This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

      by lunachickie on Fri Oct 18, 2013 at 08:19:12 AM PDT

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      •  That's why you wage endless war against a tactic (6+ / 0-)

        The GWOT allows you to restrict civil liberties forever.  One can never "win" a war on "terror."  It's not like any designated AQ representative can sign articles of surrender in a French classroom or on the deck of the Missouri.

        I'm sure that Kissinger regrets now that they didn't think of restricting demonstrators to "protest zones" back then.

        Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

        by RFK Lives on Fri Oct 18, 2013 at 09:48:35 AM PDT

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        •  Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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          And fortunately, plenty of people have wised up to that bullshit, too:

          endless war against a tactic
          These media people have to know the lies spewing from our "representative government" are not working, but they're in it now and they can't backpedal. That's largely how we end up with these laughable "Pay No More Attention to This, It's Over" spin pieces from the likes of the NYT. They're running out of other pacifiers.

          This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

          by lunachickie on Fri Oct 18, 2013 at 11:17:52 AM PDT

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