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  •  How do you expect Mark Warner to pay off (3+ / 0-)
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    gulfgal98, splintersawry, Dallasdoc

    defense contractors if he doesn't get the money from grandma?  I mean it's not like he has any loose change in his own pocket.  

    I swear I don't know how they think people who believe they have EARNED Social Security will accept having their benefits reduced to PAY FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

    It's crazy logic.  I mean it validates Republicans.  If people are going to be taxed for Social Security only to have their benefits stolen for something else be it defense or early childhood education or whatever, they are going to even more strongly want Social Security privatized.  Of course, maybe the establishment wants that.  

    But the fact remains, you can't tax people for Social Security and then reduce their benefits to pay for something else.

    •  It invalidates both (2+ / 0-)
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      greenbell, Dallasdoc

      Republicans and Democrats who support this stupid idea. Trading insurance benefits to pay for other things, especially the debt at this time, is not going to sit well with the American people.  The damn conversation and this whole idea is simply a bait and switch.

      But the fact remains, you can't tax people for Social Security and then reduce their benefits to pay for something else.
      BTW, greenbell, I think you understood that my question was rhetorical and I wanted to see how people answered it.  You got it.  ;)

      "I don't want to run the empire, I want to bring it down!" ~ Dr. Cornel West "It was a really naked declaration of imperialism." ~ Jeremy Scahill on Obama's speech to the UN

      by gulfgal98 on Fri Oct 18, 2013 at 10:18:23 AM PDT

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