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  •  it's not a false equivalency to him (0+ / 0-)

    Obama is a centrist through and through. Always has been, always will be. He really sees Elizabeth Warren, etc as extremists (albeit of a less dangerous, more friendly variety). I imagine that when he said "extremist" in reference to the left, he was referring to the Democrats who have stubbornly refused to consider entitlement cuts, opposed his neoliberal initiatives, and who blocked Larry Summers (that really pissed him off).

    "Tell the truth and run." -- Yugoslav proverb

    by quill on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 08:55:29 AM PDT

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    •  "He really sees Elizabeth Warren as (2+ / 0-)
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      As extremist" ?  Please provide any kind of support for this ridiculous statement.

      The truest thing you say in his comment is "I imagine..."

      That's about it.

      "It ain't right, Atticus," said Jem. "No, son, it ain't right." --Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird

      by SottoVoce on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 09:01:46 AM PDT

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    •  ok, let's try this: (3+ / 0-)
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      Obama Gives a Boost to Elizabeth Warren

      Elizabeth Warren Endorsed by President Obama

      Here's an excerpt from his endorsement:

      "Elizabeth Warren will be a strong, tireless and determined advocate for the people of Massachusetts, building on her remarkable record of working to help middle class families get ahead," said Obama. "Her life's work has been helping ordinary Americans get the fair shot they need and deserve. Elizabeth's passionate advocacy on behalf of consumers led to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. The agency is now protecting people from being taken advantage of by powerful companies. I know I can count on Elizabeth to stand with me to create jobs and opportunity for the people of Massachusetts and keep our country moving forward."

      "It ain't right, Atticus," said Jem. "No, son, it ain't right." --Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird

      by SottoVoce on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 09:08:47 AM PDT

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      •  then (0+ / 0-)

        Who do you think are the extremist left politicians he was referring to? Sanders? Grayson? Merkley?

        Do you believe that Obama is not a centrist, despite the language he used in this speech and so many others, not to mention his actions?

        "Tell the truth and run." -- Yugoslav proverb

        by quill on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 10:53:19 AM PDT

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        •  I think it's important to guard against (0+ / 0-)

          declaring how President Obama feels when you don't know.  Going back to your original comment, for example, you aver that people "blocking" Summers "really pissed him off."  No one blocked Summers--he was, rightly, criticized and President Obama defended him.  But the pressure against him was so strong that Summers wisely took himself out of the running.  You have no idea that this "pissed off" Obama.  (What DID piss him off--as he said directly--was the GOP demanding hostages in order to raise the debt ceiling.)

          As for "the language he used in this speech" wasn't all that different from his press statement the other day, except it doesn't name Republicans by name.  The line "extremists in both parties don't like compromise", I agree, is a bit of false equivalence, but I think he's trying to signal that there may have to be some compromises made by both sides.  His behavior is the more important guide: He didn't waver in the face of shut down, and wouldn't have done so.  

          I don't consider him a "neoliberal" as you said, and agree with Laurence Lewis (certainly no knee-jerk defender of the President) when he wrote in todays fp post (bold mine):

          The president made terrible mistakes in negotiating with and appeasing extortionist Republicans in 2011 and 2012, but he is not an idiot, he is not weak, and he is not a sell-out. Before and during the Republican shutdown, he had every opportunity to repeat those past mistakes, or to prove that he was only looking for excuses to jettison traditional Democratic principles, but he didn't. He said he wasn't going to play the Republicans' games, and he didn't. Some doubted him. They might even have had fair reason to doubt him. But he proved them wrong by doing right.

          "It ain't right, Atticus," said Jem. "No, son, it ain't right." --Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird

          by SottoVoce on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 12:00:45 PM PDT

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