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  •  it gets a religious exemption from analysis (15+ / 0-)

    you're right, of course. Conservatism is an utterly failed experiment. This is obvious in the fact that it is always claimed by its cheerleaders to have never been tried  when it fails spectacularly. Like say, in Sept 2008 for its economic outcome, or the Iraq quagmire for its neocon wing, etc etc etc.
    But it is simply not OK in America to point this out. It is akin to showing someone that their religion is just gussied up superstition, and should not be engaged in by any functioning adult. That is RUDE, and it violates something Americans really do hold dear; the right to be thickheaded and believe any nonsense that makes them feel good. It's a luxury one can barely afford in a wide open, largely unpopulated continent (sorry about that, native Americans, but Manifest Destiny is One of Those Beliefs, y'know) but it is fatally dangerous in a more crowded world of dwindling resources and decaying climate.
    It is on us to stop giving this courtesy to people whose selfish indulgences are harming everyone. Look;
    1. There were no WMDs in Iraq.
    2. Romney was NOT in the lead at any time in the 2012 election.
    3. Shutting down the government to defund Obamacare was never going to work.

    These are three very important things that the right simply refuses to accept. They have all been denied by RW media sources and politicians alike.

    Those three facts need to be absorbed by all Republicans, teabaggers, and every other Right Winger everywhere. Until that happens, there can be no functional relationship with them, period. It is a prerequiste for any republican who wishes to debate anything with me that they address these three facts before i will engage. If they do not, I dismiss the subject, and i am not terribly polite about it, either. I am done with deference to willful stupidity.

    Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

    by kamarvt on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 05:40:30 AM PDT

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    •  You are quite correct, of course... (4+ / 0-)

         I was thinking the other day that, soon enough, the 2016 races will begin, and we'll be hearing from the usual conservatives that we should elect a conservative, and I want to shout, "Wait! Wait! Remember the last conservative who was POTUS? Remember Junior? He wrecked the whole country, why would we want an encore?"

      Compost for a greener piles?

      by Hoghead99 on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 06:30:06 AM PDT

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    •  We are too often applying "conservative" to (4+ / 0-)
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      ideology that is anything but conservative in the dictionary or historical political sense. There are conservative Republicans, mainly former active Republicans, in politics. What is in place is a radical, right wing ideology that, like some parasitic insect eating the host from inside has taken over the Grand Old Party. Of course it was the GOP that willingly ate the contaminated meat containing those parasitic eggs in an effort to regain power.

      I think it helps to keep pointing our that these people are anything but conservative. They are no more that than violent and near violent far leftist radicals bent on destruction are "progressives."

      The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

      by pelagicray on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 07:30:12 AM PDT

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