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    DID call him out on it.  He gave some bullshit response, and when she went public, people didn't believe her until the second woman came forward.

    •  Thank you. You caused me to go back and re-read (1+ / 0-)
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      And I see that I am being unfair to Monica Byrne, although it doesn't erase my original question.

      So -- ok, she's not so cowardly, even if she did not originally name names.  She had to know that people would put 2 and 2 together to get 4.

      That leaves me wondering even more: If she's willing to call the guy out in public, why not just tell him that some of the things he said made her uncomfortable?

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 08:06:55 AM PDT

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      •  I'm going from memory of the story here (0+ / 0-)

        but I think what happens is that you're sitting there not believing the conversation is going there.

        Are you hearing this right?  Are you overreacting?  Is it the beer he drank with lunch?  He's just having a bad day?  (That was his excuse).

        Hmmm, maybe he isn't trying to get laid.  Maybe I'm giving off signals?  

        This goes through our heads - if the guy's not groping but just talking too much about sex, we likely let it go at the time.  It's uncomfortable but we're not likely to throw a drink on him and huff out of there.  What if we're rude and he's just kidding? (yeah, we think that sort of stuff).

        Then we leave.  We think about it.  We talk to friends who bolster us and tell us the guy's just an asshole and we're not overreacting.  

        So maybe we just leave it.  Or we send him an e-mail saying, not "you're an asshole, wtf!?", but testing the water,  embarrassed that we may have misunderstood.  Give him a chance to lie his way out of it, er, explain himself.

        Or we blog about it.

        But at the moment it's happening we are hoping he's just kidding or having an off day, or we are thinking perhaps we've given the wrong signals, or maybe our perception is off and we're overreacting, or maybe all of it will just go away, because it's frustrating and sickening that this sort of crap even exists - we're intelligent women, not vaginas with legs.

        "I'll just get the heck out of here as soon as lunch is over", we think.

        Only upon reflection do we realize we didn't mistake what was going on, and the guy's a total douche, and we should have said something in the moment but we'll say it now.

        I don't call that cowardice.

        •  That makes a certain amount of sense. (0+ / 0-)

          I'm still bothered by the inability of grown-ups to talk to each other like grown-ups.

          LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

          by dinotrac on Sat Oct 19, 2013 at 10:19:24 AM PDT

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